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June 12, 2008

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JPM

Actually, I was quite surprised to see that janitors get paid $14.10 an hour. That was more than I expected after reading the headline. I respect anyone that gets up in the morning and does a tough job. Having said that Tufts will simply up the cost of their already sky high tuition to pay for any increase. Not everyone who goes to Tufts is a rich trust fund kid!

"Jeffrey Kim, a student at Tufts and member of the alliance, said Tufts University janitors are paid $14.10 per hour; $9.48 less than the living wage for a single parent with a preschool child in Boston."

This is a meaningless phrase! $14.10 an hour for an unskilled position that requires no education at all is pretty good. It is not Tufts obligation to pay "the living wage for a single parent with a preschool child in Boston." When you ask for a raise at work do you say to your boss, "well I have 3 kids and need more money than my single coworkers" or "I am a single mom, I need more money than my married coworkers"...of course you don't. You get paid what the market dictates.


Dining Services

At least the janitors are unionized and make better wages than the dining service workers at Tufts. I am not putting down the janitors but the dining service workers, I believe, work harder, have more interactions with the students, are grossly mistreated by their management and play an important role to all who visit Tufts as the "face" of the university.

Hopefully any students that are reading this blog will look into helping these much maligned Tufts workers.

Kate

I thought the dining services were run by Sodexho, Aramark or other; I guess not.

City Slicker

If janitors do not like their job or the pay or conditions, they can do what the rest of us do:

1) quit and find another job;
2) re-train and find another job; or
3) go back to school and get a better job .

To: Kate

You seem to know a lot about outsourcing.

Take it from someone who knows, outsoucing of many individual professions just does not work and in the end has cost most institutions that have gone down that rocky, scummy road more headaches and money in the end.

Just look at Dell computers. They outsourced their customer service network to New Delhi, India! Try and get some satisfaction from that experience, they have no clue about American "lingo" and are about as much help as putting a band aid on a severed limb.

To: City Slicker

If everyone had your mindset then there would still be "sweatshops" with child labor, no OSHA, no unions, soup lines and horrible working conditions for most trades and labor jobs.

What's the matter with trying to make the job or institution you are working in now a better place to work?

Kate

Sodexho runs the campus dining services at MIT, Babson and Bentley; Aramark runs them at BU; Restaurant Associates does/did run them at Harvard Business School; Compass runs them at Northeastern and I think it was/is Compass that ran/runs them at BC.

Kate

Actually, MIT has three difference dining service providers - Sodexho, Aramark and I forget the other one.

To:Kate

And your point is?

Kate

That outsourcing is alive and doing well.

Imux

Any janitor making $50K should never happen. Ask the auto industry or the T what happens when you cave in to a union's silly demands. You go broke OR as in this case; you pass the cost right along to a lot of parents who - some of whom anyway - are struggling to pay for their snotnose kid's tuition and books.

Plus, if Osama Obama gets elected he will be raising taxes on anyone making over $30k. The raise the janitors get (from less than $30K a year to $50K a year) will be illusional as the gov't will just take it all with the increased federal income taxes. They're better off sticking with what they make and avoid the increased taxes. PISSA... ain't it? We will soon be living in a society that disincentivizes one to make more money. I love these progressive democrats (communists).

City Slicker

They currently make about $30,000. I would say that is about right for an unskilled position that requires no education.

jeff

Please keep in mind that wage is not the main issue with the contract negotiations.

Also, consider the lack of fringe benefits and how many of the workers are only working part time. Thus, rendering them ineligible for any fringe benefits at all.

Regardless, of how you feel about their wages or the injustices of others (like the dining service workers), there is an opportunity to make a certain segment of people's life a bit more reasonable.

For more information check out:
http://justicefortuftsjanitors.blogspot.com/

To: Kate (Outsourcing Cooties)

You said that dining outsourcing is alive and doing well.....right?

Tell that to the people that hired Aramark at Fenway Park. How many code and board of health violations did they violate recently? Wasn't it around FIFTEEN? How disgusting!

Dining outsourcing is alive alright.......dirty organisms are alive and well in your Fenway Frank! YECH!!!!!!!!

Outsourcing companies care more about the "bottom line" than the health of their customers!

Kate

Yes, it was approx. 15 violations, AND Fenway Honchos were PO'd that Aramark never notified them about the violations, at the time they were incurred. A lot of problems over there. Re: the bottom line -- Fenway is looking for a profit as well. There is a certain amount of $$ that Fenway expects from Armark's sales, any shortfall must be made up by Aramark. So, it behooves them, both, to make $$$.

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