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May 28, 2008

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Rainman Avenue

>>>Well within minutes after arriving, there was a rush to leave by Queen Pat Jehlen, our Senator, - Alderwomen from Ward 6 Rebekah Gewirtz and of course Prince Carl Sciortino, one of our State Reps - they left before the ceremony in such a rush, the word was that there must have been a strategy meeting or something going on. They were probably thinking - what the heck, the parade was over and who would notice if they didn’t stay for the memorial service? Apparently more than a few noticed, including some Veteran’s groups – and they were not surprised.<<<

Your damned right we noticed and its no wonder the judge sent Scortino packing. That kid shouldn't even be elected to Dog catcher and should get down and kiss the ground these veterans walk on. We have to send these commies out of here and put some regular Americans and Veterans in there to look after Somerville and AMERICA for a change! I've had it with these god damn no good COMMIE liberals like Scortino!

I walk the line

Did anyone notice the queen, prince and princess walk right down the middle of the street during the entire parade route. They knew nobody except in ward six where they received a few waves! What an embarassment having these three in elected office. Soon it will be one down and two to go.

Newstalk part 2

Speaking of the Memorial Day parade, we hear that the esteemed editor, we mean school committee member, from Ward 4 didn't even make an appearance at the event. His absence was certainly noted, and more than a few wondered aloud what could have been more important than honoring those who served our country.

James Norton

Newstalk part 2 -

I normally wouldn't feel the need to address your silly comment, but, my life has been upended the past two weeks with pneumonia. There was no possible way I was going to be able to walk or move around much on Sunday - so rather than sit in a car like an ass and then try to remain as composed as possible during the ceremony at the end, I was at home trying to get back to normal. Anyone who questions my regard for veterans and the people who serve this country in our military clearly doesn't know me at all and/or must be been lost in some kind of delusional trance. "More than a few wondered aloud..." - give me a break.

JN

Snowflake says "Your Out"!

The first thing any good normal politician would do is hand deliver his signature in person before he goes out romancing the Stone! If he's this incompetent to do such a small task to secure his position and his office, he is to incompetent to do his job! Carl you deserve to be ousted!

Kate

You people are such knuckle-draggers! (Not you, James)

Kate

You people are such knuckle-draggers! (Not you, James)

Imux

Kate, why are we knuckle-draggers? Instead of ad hominem attacks it would be a pleasant surprise if you could debate the issues. Name calling has no place in any debate and we've all grown weary of you (and the other PDS-bots) using this as your only tactic.

Carl needs to go. He has embarrassed himself and those of us who live in the Middlesex 34th. We're sick of this fool who can't do a simple task (getting the signatures to the secretary of state's office), runs dirty campaigns and who never returns calls.

Tricky

"Name calling has no place in any debate and we've all grown weary of you (and the other PDS-bots)"

Classic.

Kate

Imux - you are just completely hung up on Carl and any other democrat. Who cares if they didn't stick around at the cemetery for the length of time you and yours believe to be appropriate. You consider THAT to be an issue?!

"He has embarrassed himself and those of us who live in the Middlesex 34th."
THAT'S what embarasses you?!

"Name-calling" - you kill me.

Oh, boy, you just can't make this stuff up.

Imux

Kate, can you please tell me where i said anything about Queen, Queenie and Qu... er, I mean... the Prince not staying long enough? The embarrassment I am referring to is the Prince's losing the signatures and then wasting our money trying to get special considerations to get tossed on the ballot. It's bad enough I live in a state that taxes us to death, coddles illegals, allows same sex marraige and has a do-nothing governor, but now I have to endure my district being represented by a complete nincompoop (Carl)!! We've had it. Time for change! Carl is lucky that we're not calling for him to be tar'd and feathered. Well... some aren't.

And I am glad to see you and the other PDS-bot (Tricky) stop the name calling. It's refreshing to see and long overdue.

true american

I have never responded to anything written on here. I mostly read it for the entertainment value and the few chuckles that it provides me. But after reading that last post by Kate it got my blood boiling.

I am a veteran. I served my country and I lost friends during my time in country. As such I find it highly insulting that an elected official deems to think that he or she can just shrug off the sacrifice my comrades in arms made for this country. I for one took note of who was and was not at the cemetery when honors were paid to those that paid the highest price for our country.

Can you please tell me what is more important for an elected official to do on this day of national remembrance?

Rainman Avenue

True American, I salute you for your service and for everyone who ever wore the uniform of the armed services including the Merchant Marine and Coast Guard during wartime. These pinkos that are holding local elected office now haven't got a clue. Like I said, they should all be kissing the ground you guys walk on instead of ducking out when there aren't crowds lining the streets who they can wave to. What a bunch of phony baloneys all these PDS beatniks are as well as their present leaders Deval Patrick and Osama Bama! We should run them all these commies out of town!!!

Craig

Has anyone considered that they might have had another event to attend? They all represent other communities besides Somerville, correct? I'm not sure, but just wanted to throw it out there- I used to work in politics, and on days like the 4th of July, Memorial Day, and Veterans Day, we often had to arrange the official's schedule in a way that he made it to at least part of every event. Better than none.

Just a thought. Unless you prefer to just hate them and find any excuse possible to hate them even more. Which, I guess, is what some of you will continue to do no matter what.

Kate

Well said, Craig.

Kate

Well said, Craig.

The truth

They may have had other events to attend?
Event (1) How to raise taxes on the working class convention.
Event (2) Communist sympathizer convention.
Event (3) More benefits for illegal aliens paid for by the working class convention.
Event (4) Why it was wrong to go to war against the NAZIS because we all know that wars never solve anything Convention!
Let us never take for granted the price that it costs to be free, and the respect that those who have paid the ultimate price to give us that right DESERVE.

Kate

I, and my children, pay respect to my Grandfathers, my Father and my Uncles, ourselves. We don't want, nor do we need, any politicians, who never knew them, paying them any photo-opportunity respects. You knuckleheads that are boo-hooing about this are truly ridiculous.

The truth

Kate, I don't know them either but I thank them everyday for my freedom. Should we not treat veterans with respect and dignity that they deserve whether we know them or not? To leave during a ceremony just shows lack of respect! It is a sad day when politicians use Memorial day for a photo op not matter what party your affiliated with.

Craig

@ The Truth:

I meant another Memorial Day event. I know, for instance, that Medford had one. Perhaps they ran off to make it for part of that ceremony, thus honoring the veterans throughout their districts, not just Somerville.

But again, since they didn't ask your permission to leave, then they must be horrible people, right?

Kate

I, personally, don't see it as a lack of respect.

The truth

Craig, not asking for my permission to leave early doesn't make you a horrible person. Politicians will be judged on there actions by the voters. I honestly believe that the Iraq war has made some politicians feel that it is politically correct to disrespect Veterans and there families. That is the reason why we will suffer 4 more years of a Republican president. It's not what you say that counts it's what you don't say. The democratic party that once stood for the working class has turned it's back on the very people that had supported them for forty years.

To Craig.....

Craig,
Good point regarding Jehlen and Sciortino (though I don't think it holds water). However, Gewirtz 'represents' only Ward 6, Somerville (despite any wishful thinking). Andi if I'm not mistaken, the ceremony at the Veteran's Cemetery was the only remembrance being held in the city of Somerville.
Good try, though.

true american

Kate

I and many like me went to war to defend your rights. That includes your right to belittle me and my comrades on and open forum such as this. I for one hope you continue to post your remarks as it only furthers my opinion that you and people like you have no respect for those that have worn a uniform.

You say your family members served, I wonder what they would think of the things that you have said here

Kate

True - How dare you claim to know what my feelings are regarding veterans. You're full of crap, you're no veteran - you're probably one of the pantiwaists who wrote this article, just using another reason to criticize the politicians (the ones SN can't stand) of Somerville. Don't give me any of your patriotic BS. You've twisted everything I've said. I can't understand how you call my words belittling. I do have respect for actual veterans. My grandfather fought in the Spanish American War, my other grandfather fought in WWI, my father and two uncles fought in WWII, another uncle was in the Navy Air Reserves and was lost, along with two other planes on a training flight, somewhere in the area of Cuba in 1959. My ex-husband served 4 years in the Air Force during the Viet Nam, and my son served 2 years in the Navy. So, my life has been full of veterans and their stories of life during war, and I treasure every one of those memories. I do not, however, have respect for you, and you Sir or Madam have furthered my opinion that you're just posing as a veteran.

Craig

@ To Craig:
All I was doing was throwing out a possibility. I have no idea what they did or where they went, but I figured there was enough speculation that wasn't based in any fact that I might as well add a plausible explanation from my experience.

As "Newstalk Part 2" and James' interaction make clear, when you write something in a speculative way and make assumptions, you're putting negative connotations out there that may be unfounded. This column isn't a news article, so it's not like there is a need to follow-up with calls to offices to get their sides of the story, but we should all be careful before jumping to conclusions and name-calling.

Somerspeak

How about this? Only elected officials who are also veterans can march in the parade.

Short parade. Walter Pero gets maximum exposure.

I like it.

true american

You continually attack anyone that disagrees with you with name calling and insults.Your attempts at defending your position with these tactics makes it easy for others to see them for what they are.

I have often found it to be the case that people act this way because they have a very bad case of low self esteem and they make up for it by belittling others.

true american

Kate

Thanks for showing your true colors. You continually attack anyone that disagrees with you with name calling and insults.Your attempts at defending your position with these tactics makes it easy for others to see them for what they are.

I have often found it to be the case that pdople act this way because they have a very bad case of low self esteem and they make up for it by belittling others.

Imux

Kate, it seems that your treasonus opinions have been noticed by many - not just me. Your support for the PDS and other POS like Carl/Rebeccah/Pat - who have spit on our flag (by not sticking around for the ceremony) and called our soldiers murderers (Craig) has been noted. You and your treasonous comrades can't run now from some of the opinions you have spwed out in this forum.

Do us all a favor and call "all your relatives" who served and mention to them that you have been actively supporting Al Queda and other terrorists against our brave soldiers. Then come back and report what they say. Ok?

The PDS and their traitor supporters need to see that the tide has turned. We are demanding change from the hard left, wacked out policies that have crippled our city.

Kate

UN True and/or Imux - you two (or maybe it's just one and the same) are almost, but not really, funny.

Kate

"low self esteem" - I believe it's your self-esteem that is lacking, if you honestly feel belittled by my statements.

"whacked out" - well, you definitely know whacked out.

You're, both or one, a couple of dots short of a domino.

Tricky

(or maybe it's just one and the same)

Hmmm. If not, they're using the same playbook - they've both used the word "comrades" today, and I have never heard a veteran refer to his fellow soldiers as "comrades" before today.

Kate

an "attack" - IF you really were a war veteran, you'd recognize what an attack truly is.

Kate

Tricky - thank you for commenting, these clowns are wearing me out.

Trixie_Rix

Oh, Muxie-Poo! Your performance in the sack is
STILL a disgrace!

Your Niagara Falls, even when Viagra calls!

My Heavens, even Podunk State is better endowed
than you!

I am going home to Mother--your blow-up doll can
keep you engaged....

Trixie

Imux

Kate/Tricky, neither of you addressed the issue that all the PDS candidates left before the memorial service for veterans. We understand why - they (like you) don't give a s@it about veterans or anyone except themselves. They need to go and the quicker we can ship you fools off to Cambridge (or Vermont) the better.

Also, Kate, has ICE thrown your illegal brazilian hubby out yet? If not, tell him my toilet is plugged (chili and some PBRs tonight) and I need some dumb, cheap labor to clean it up. Tell him I'll give $1.50 and a taco.

Richard James

I didn't really care to get involved but I think Kate's comments are a disgrace. Please don't pretend to care for veteran's. You and your ilk hate this country and the peoploe that defend it. You say your ex-husband was in Vietnam? Gee, do we have to wonder why he's your ex? He probably couldn't stand your anti-veteran, anti-America vitriol. I remember somebody falsely posted under the name "IMUX" in the article "Strengthen the GI bill now" by Matt McLaughlin. In that article, somebody (other than IMUX) wrote "Afterall, you become a soldier BECAUSE you are stupid." It obviosly wasn't IMUX, but whomever wrote it truly does believe that our soldiers are stupid. That person is obviously Kate or one of her pals.


As for stupid people in the military, let's look at the military service records of our Presidents.

George Washington Va. 30 Apr 1789 4 Mar 1797 Virginia Militia 1754-58; on General Braddock's staff in 1755; appointed C-in-C of armed forces of the Co 1783; commissioned Lt Gen and appointed to command of US Army on a standby basis 3 Jul 1798; died 14 Dec 1799.
John Adams Mass 4 Mar 1797 4 Mar 1801 No record of service.
Thomas Jefferson Va 4 Mar 1801 4 Mar 1809 No record of service.
James Madison Va 4 Mar 1809 4 Mar 1817 No record of service.
James Monroe Va 4 Mar 1817 4 Mar 1825 2d Lt to Maj in Revolutionary War serving from 28 Sep 1775 to 20 Dec 1778.
John Q. Adams Mass 4 Mar 1825 4 Mar 1829 No record of service.
Andrew Jackson Tenn 4 Mar 1829 4 Mar 1837 Maj Gen of Volunteers 1812-14; Brig Gen in US Army 19 Apr 1814; Maj Gen in US Army 1 May 1814; discharged 1 Jun 1821.
Martin Van Buren N.Y. 4 Mar 1937 4 Mar 1841 No record of service.
William H. Harrison Ohio 4 Mar 1841 4 Apr 1841 Ensign to Capt in US Army 1791-98; resigned 1 Jun 1798; appointed Brig Gen, US Army, 22 Aug 1812 and Maj Gen 2 Mar 1813; resigned 31 May 1814.
John Tyler Va 4 Apr 1841 4 Mar 1845 Raised a company for the defense of Richmond in 1813.
James K. Polk Tenn 4 Mar 1845 4 Mar 1849 No record of service.
Zachary Taylor La 4 Mar 1849 9 Jul 1850 Rose from 1st Lt, 3 May 1808 to Maj Gen 29 Jun 1846, US Army, with service in War of 1812 and Mexican War; out of service only from 15 Jun 1815 to 17 May 1816; resigned 31 Jan 1849.
Millard Fillmore N.Y. 9 Jul 1850 4 Mar 1853 No record of service.
Franklin Pierce N. H. 4 Mar 1853 4 Mar 1857 Private to Brig Gen of Volunteers 1846-48 for service in Mexican War.
James Buchanan Pa 4 Mar 1857 4 Mar 1861 No record of service.
Abraham Lincoln Ill. 4 Mar 1861 15 Apr 1865 Capt of Volunteers 21 Apr 1832-27 May 1832; private in Volunteers 29 May 1832-16 Jun 1832 during Black Hawk War.
Andrew Johnson Tenn 15 Apr 1865 4 Mar 1869 Brig Gen of Volunteers 4 Mar 1862-3 Mar 1865 serving as military governor of Tennessee.
Ulysses S. Grant D.C. 4 Mar 1869 4 Mar 1877 Cadet USMA 1839-43; rose from brevet 2d Lt to Capt 1 Jul 1843; resigned 31 Jul 1854 with service in Mexican War; Col of Volunteers 17 Jun 1861 to Gen US Army 25 Jul 1866; commanding general, US Army, 12 Mar 1864-3 Mar 1869.
Rutherford B. Hayes Ohio 4 Mar 1877 4 Mar 1881 Maj of Volunteers 27 Jun 1861 to Brig Gen of Volunteers 19 Oct 1864; brevet Maj Gen 13 Mar 1865; resigned 8 Jun 1865.
James A Garfield Ohio 4 Mar 1881 19 Sep1881 Lt Col of Volunteers 21 Aug 1861 to Maj Gen of Volunteers 19 Sep 1863; resigned 5 Dee 1863.
Chester A. Arthur N.Y. 20 Sep 1881 4 Mar 1885 Inspector general and quartermaster general of New York Militia in Civil War. No Federal service.
Grover Cleveland N.Y. 4 Mar 1885 4 Mar 1889 No record of service.
Benjamin Harrison Ind. 4 Mar 1889 4 Mar 1893 2d Lt of Volunteers 14 Jul 1862 to Col of Volunteers 7 Aug 1862; brevet Brig Gen 23 Jan 1865; mustered out 8 Jun 1865.
Grover Cleveland N.Y. 4 Mar 1893 4 Mar 1897 No record of service.
William McKinley Ohio 4 Mar 1897 14 Sep 1901 Private in Volunteers 23 Jun 1861 to Capt of Volunteers 25 Jul 1864; brevet Maj 13 Mar 1865; mustered out 26 Jul 1865.
Theodore Roosevelt N.Y. 14 Sep 1901 4 Mar 1909 Lt Col of Volunteers 6 May 1898 to Col 11 Jul 1898; mustered out 15 Sep 1898.
William H. Taft Ohio 4 Mar 1909 4 Mar 1913 No record of service.
Woodrow Wilson N.J. 4 Mar 1913 4 Mar 1921 No record of service.
Warren G. Harding Ohio 4 Mar 1921 2 Aug 1923 No record of service.
Calvin Coolidge Mass 3 Aug 1923 4 Mar 1929 No record of service.
Herbert Hoover Calif 4 Mar 1929 4 Mar 1933 No record of service.
Franklin D. Roosevelt N.Y. 4 Mar 1933 12 Apr 1945 No record of service.
Harry S. Truman Mo. 12 Apr 1945 20 Jan 1953 1st Lt in National Guard 1917 (entered Guard in 1905) to Capt 11 Nov 1918; remained in Reserves after WWI; Col in Reserves 1927.
Dwight D. Eisenhower N.Y. 20 Jan 1953 20 Jan 1961 Cadet USMA 1911-15; 2d Lt in RA 12 Jun 1915 to General of the Army 20 Dec 1944; Chief of Staff 19 Nov 1945 to 7 Feb 1948; resigned 18 Jul 1952; served in WW I and commanded ETO in WWII
John F. Kennedy Mass 20 Jan 1961 22 Nov 1963 Commander, US Navy WWII.
Lyndon B. Johnson Tex 22 Nov 1963 20 Jan 1969 Lt. Commander, US Navy, WWII, Commander US Naval Reserves 1948.
Richard M. Nixon Calif 20 Jan 1969 9 Aug 1974 Lt. Commander, WWII.
Gerald R. Ford Mich. 9 Aug 1974 20 Jan 1977 Lt. Commander, US Navy, WWII.
Jimmy Carter Ga. 20 Jan 1977 20 Jan 1981 Lt. Commander, US Navy 1946-1953.
Ronald W. Reagan Calif 20 Jan 1981 20 Jan 1989 Acted in US Army training films.
George H.W. Bush Tex 20 Jan 1989 20 Jan 1993 Lt. WWII, US Navy pilot.
William J. Clinton Ark. 20 Jan 1993 20 Jan 2001 No record of service.
George W. Bush Texas Air National Guard First Lieutenant Stateside service during Vietnam War (1968-1973).

As a whole, a real "stupid" bunch.

Tricky, the term "comrades in arms" is pretty popular among those who served.

Kate, the only place you get worn out is in the back room at Khoury's.

And for anyone who questions why James Norton wasn't at the parade you should take him at his word about his illness. He didn't mention it, but Mr. Norton is a veteran. He served. Period.

Craig

I'm sorry, but I have to laugh at the fact that you count Ronald Reagan's "Acted in US Army training films" as honorable service! I'm sure my grandfather would agree it really was as close to the service he saw, which included a 50 cal bullet to the gut and the Silver Star.

LOL!!!

Kate

Imux dba Richard James - You need to have your medication adjusted.

Kate

Imux dba Richard James - You need to have your medication adjusted.

Richard James

Craig,
Ronald Reagan enlisted in the Army Enlisted Reserve on April 29, 1937, as a private assigned to Troop B, 322nd Cavalry at Des Moines, Iowa. He was appointed Second Lieutenant in the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry on May 25, 1937, and on June 18 was assigned to the 323rd Cavalry.

Reagan was ordered to active duty for the first time on April 18, 1942. Due to his nearsightedness, he was classified for limited service only, which excluded him from serving overseas


In short, he served.

As for your "grandfather," please stop lying. Anybody shot in the gut with a 50 cal would have been killed immediately. Another phoney.

Kate, you're a douche and that's why your husband divorced you.

Kate

Richard (not) - Got ya!

Craig

@ Richard James:

So he served as much as GWB. And he acted. Thanks for clarifying why he was so much more qualified to serve as president than the current Democratic candidates.

Oh, and before you talk out your ass, read "The River and the Gauntlet," find the passage about Robert O'Donnell, then come to my uncle's house and see the bullet. It killed him 30 years later, as a re-infected wound, but he lived well enough to have a family and a career in the Army, retiring as a Brigadier General.

And what unit were you with, again?

Remember what I said earlier about assumptions...

Imux

Craig, I wonder what your uncle would say about you being a limp-wristed, treasonous prick rooting for the terrorists and against veterans? You think he'd be proud? I doubt it.

Obama and Hillary never felt the need to wear the uniform of any branch. Ever. I spit at them. They are both unfit to serve as President. Bush and Reagan both served and McCain is a war hero (married to woman with big yabos who owns a beer factory!!! WOO-HOOOO!!!).

Richard James

Craig,
lpha Company, 1st Ranger Battlion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, GA from 1982-1987. What was your unit? What's your grandfather's name? Can I borrow your copy because the book you quoted is out of print. What is your uncle's address because I'm coming by on Sunday to see the bullet.

I think you and Kate have a meeting of the "I hate America club" to go to.

Odd how you attack the service of Bush and Reagan while you remain quiet about Bill Clinton. It's even more odd when you take into consideration that you didn't serve either. Worse yet, you try to bring in a relative's service to impute some added sense of patriotism on your part.

You and Kate should get together... two douches.

Kate

Richard aka Imux - Wow, no way, Savannah? - what a hero! ROFLMAO

Richard James

Like I said... you're a douche and that's why you're single. Again.

Craig

I-hole:
Whatever.

Richard James:
Thanks for serving. My brother was at Ft. Stewart, "the last exit before Hell" as he called it. Thanks for serving. Not that I need to prove myself to you, but while I haven't served in uniform I had the honor of serving five years as a veterans' advocate with the VA. Both claims and medical care. One of the most rewarding and difficult times of my life.

Sorry the book's out of print- I'd make it easier for you, but I really don't care to. The point of all this was to say that there may be a plausible explanation for things that the SN leaves open-ended and negative.

Kate

Richard/Imux - you don't know me; I'm not single.

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