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February 04, 2008

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JPM

A lawsuit is just an allegation. The city one at summary judgment stage whihc means that the plaintiffs had not produced any evidence that there was contamination at the site. It is not enough for the plaintiffs to come forward with inuendo and speculation, even if some people have died. If there was contamination they needed to have a professional expert report showing something concrete. Having said that I wouldn't work there! There is the law, and there is the real world!

Once

They also said that LOVE CANAL was not a danger, Woburn was not a danger, and yet how many have to get so very very sick. Curly can only clean SO MUCH?

tommy boy

It, funny that the current administration protects a city hall employee who was arrested three times for drunk driving in a year jepodizing the safety of the public, but they see no need to protect the health and safety of those who protect the public. I wonder what public safety expert Mr. Champion has to say.

Bill Shelton

JPM,

You suggest that "that the plaintiffs had not produced any evidence that there was contamination at the site."

From my reading of this article (maybe George can clarify), that was NOT the Court's conclusion. As the city's press release acknowledges, the court found insufficient evidence that "the city had knowingly and negligently exposed its employees to hazardous working conditions." The plaintiffs needed to show that their was a causal link between their illnes and the city's conduct.

In fact, there is ample evidence that the Public Safety Building is a "sick building." The laws of probability confirm that simply the number of building inhabitants who have become ill or died, as a proportion of the building's regular inhabitants, is far beyond the threshold required for "significant correlation."

In the absence of serious intervention by the city, the "atmosphere of concern and antagonism that" John Gannon is "happy to see dispelled," sadly, won't be.

The Truth

tommy boy,
I read about Gannon, but who is the employee that was arrested three times in a year for OUI? Damn, that's a bad year.

Bill Shelton

JPM,

You suggest that "that the plaintiffs had not produced any evidence that there was contamination at the site."

From my reading of this article (maybe George can clarify), that was NOT the Court's conclusion. As the city's press release acknowledges, the court found insufficient evidence that "the city had knowingly and negligently exposed its employees to hazardous working conditions." The plaintiffs needed to show that their was a causal link between their illnes and the city's conduct.

In fact, there is ample evidence that the Public Safety Building is a "sick building." The laws of probability confirm that simply the number of building inhabitants who have become ill or died, as a proportion of the building's regular inhabitants, is far beyond the threshold required for "significant correlation."

In the absence of serious intervention by the city, the "atmosphere of concern and antagonism that" John Gannon is "happy to see dispelled," sadly, won't be.

paul

Hey Bill maybe we can house some of those bank robbers from Charlestown you are so fond of in this "sick" building.

TOWNIES

Who cares about a few cops w/ cancer they shouldnt have smoked butts and ate donuts

Imux

Well done! These sissies would complain about anything to get a few bucks from the government. Damn leeches! The buildings are just fine, you idiots. It's all in your sick mind.

-Imux

Bill Shelton

I frequently make mistakes, and I did so with my earlier post on this story. The Court ruled on the absence of evidence of pathogens in the building. The ruling did NOT turn, as I had stated above, on lack of evidence that “"the city had knowingly and negligently exposed its employees to hazardous working conditions. The ruling had nothing to do with the city’s intent.”

The plaintiffs were not required to show illness. The courts have held that plaintiffs in sick building lawsuits do not have to wait around for illness or injury to have recourse. All they need to show is hazardous conditions.

To be fair to the city, no person who has ever been diagnosed with cancer has ever claimed it was a result of contact with the Public Safety Building. Numerous inspections, including air testing, by the Department of Occupational Safety have found no volatile organic compounds or mold at hazardous levels. The city, did, indeed, find mold in the building, and an exhaust flowing into it. Both conditions have been corrected.

Yet, the cluster of illnesses among the occupant population appears to be above the threshold for a significant correlation. Why, remains a mystery.

I sincerely apologize for the misinformation that I posted previously.

Imux

Yet, the cluster of illnesses among the occupant population appears to be above the threshold for a significant correlation. Why, remains a mystery.


Bill, must be all those "fine particles" floating around the city from I-93. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

concrerned

I would like to challenge Bill or anyone else to produce records showing that the the mold in the lower level of the Public Safety Building was ever removed. DEP requires that mold must be removed by licensed people using proper procedures. The only attempt the city ever made was to illegally send in a few DPW people with with no respitory protection to attempt the job. They never completed it and the lower level of the building has been closed for 9 years. By opening the walls the mold spores have been released into the air and pumped through out the building. If this had was a private building the owner would have been cited by the board of health. This problem has existed for years and one administration after another has buried thier head in the sand and left the problem for the next administration. As for no one saying that thier cancer was from the building, I guess you never read the lawsuit. There is plenty of blame to go around, but we have continued to elect gutless mayors who don't care enough to do the right thing and leave it for thier succesor.

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