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December 23, 2007

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Frank Bucca

I serve as the Litte League District Rules Director.
The District encompasses Malden, Medford, Everett, Melrose, and Somerville. Individual leagues within each city entity are defined by boundary lines approved by Little League, Inc.

I can attest to Joe Janiero's refreshing approach and ideas towards making positive inroads in getting more Somerville kids involved in baseball; and softenintg the "win at all costs" mindsets in ADULTS, replaced with a slant towards kids just learning the game and having fun doing it; winning a ballgsme being secondary.

I support Joe in his endeavors.....as do many others.

Frank Bucca--ADA Rules--District 12--Mass.

[A lifetime-[born and raised]- Somerville resident @ 76 years old--[SHS, class of 1949]

fosternotfromgloucester

One of the last places that the cultural diversity Somerville has been experiencing over the last 20 years is still lacking has been in youth sports and general school program involvement. Many parents of our newest ethnic groups appear to not have any interest in these things.
This is a complex set of dynamics.
Driven primarily by parental support, no matter what sport you may have witnessed or been involved in, white kids are still the highest percentage of participants. This also includes the Non-white Parents lack of support through volunteer positions and financial support.
The immigrant parents from other cultures and parts of the world are involved in economic struggles, and have not assimilated into mainstream American culture. This is not dis-similar to our great-grandparents plight in the 19th century...who frankly did not see any value in wasting time on Sports.
So, it may appear to many that Haitians, Central Americans, or "whomever" parents are not "there" for their kids.
I would suggest that their value system is skewed to financial survival at the expense of youth sports, PTA and whatever else you want to say "they don't show up for".
In the mean time Somerville Youth sports have suffered somewhat from low turnouts relative to the population of kids available, and when you are trying to teach and prepare young folk for higher levels of competition,higher participant numbers produce higher rates of success.
In the last 20 years, Somerville Baseball may have suffered the most from this low percentage.
In a world of travel teams, expensive equipment and user fees, how do you increase involvement without having those already involved on all levels bear more of the burden of coaching, financing and transporting?
Solutions might be much more complex than the problem itself. Any thoughts out there?

New Somervillian

I completely understand the lack of interest in sports. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, and the source of many prejudices against members of the opposite sex. Obviously, this is an unpopular view, but I'd rather have my kids learn French then wasting their time throwing a ball around.

Cosmo

Frank Bucca speaks from the heart and God bless him. I completely agree and support Joe. Thank you Frank for your service to our city.

Frank Bucca

New Somervillian:
Welcome to Somerville.

Re your comments.....

There is absolutely nothing wrong in learning all that one strives to learn, or wants to learn. or is encouraged to learn, in the world of academics. Choices abound!!

But please don't discount life's lessons to be taught and learned, by responsible and caring adults-[Joe Janiero for one]- in the world of youth sports.

Viz: Sportsmanship, fair play, inter-acting with peers, team concept/work, respect for elders/authority, maintaining physical health, etc.

Many many educated adults, past and present, were/are successfully involved in medicine, public life, the military;... yes--even academics; the business world, the legal world, the sciences,etc., having participated in recreational youth sports in their journey thru life.

Perhaps...[repeat].. perhaps...as your child continues to move on... learning French, math, English, history, geography, etc.,....ASK him or her if he/she wishes to participate in youth sports.

Frank

JARfromWard3

Frank Bucca--not surprisingly--hits the nail right on the head.

To his list of things that youth sports helps to imbue in children, I would respectfully add the following: leadership, public speaking and, of paramount importance, the facility to deal with disappointment.

And I think Joe Janeiro is doing a fine job in steering the program through challenging times.

73
JAR

Brian

Learning baseball, and in fact learning to play any American sport is far more important to American children than learning some useless/forgotten language of the cowardly french. Winning games is important, but losing games is also important. Life is tough, but nothing prepares kids for life's ups and downs better than sports, especially baseball. Joe: You are right on track. Encourage all of the boys and girls of Somerville to play baseball. Merry Christmas!

New Somervillian

Let me rephrase the advantages you talk about.

1. Respect for elders: Bow to authority, inhibit critical thinking; the old man says so.

2. Interacting with peers: Prove to the other boys you are not one of those sissy girls).

3. Team concept/work: Learn the fundamentals of how the old boys networks work and learn how to hate the "other" team.

And so on.

Sports contribute to the creation more obnoxious people in our society. How about teaching kids useful activities without the competitive concept of "us" and "them"?
Happy Holidays.

Janice

Obviously New Somervillian never learned to play sports. He/she is not a team player. He/she is a miserable creep. A selfish/self-centered loser. If you can't say Merry Christmas, then go back to Red China where you belong. You asshole!

Cosmo

Happy Festivus! Man let's remember the season!

New Somervillian

Janice, in case you have not realized it, these holidays are just an excuse to buy useless crap. Only reason of their existence. Therefore, keep the Xmas bullshit for yourself and your unfortunate family. Thank you.

What happend to Scirocco?

What happened to Scirocco, i thought he was the president of baseball?

New Somervillian

Who's Scirocco? Sounds like a dumb last name to me.

Janice

Gee new somerville, what holiday might tomorrow be, you moron. If I wanted to buy useless crap, I'd buy you.

Brian

Hey Janice,

Good job here. Merry Christmas.

New Somervillian

Tomorrow is the favorite holiday for Catholic priests. No doubt about that.

Frank Bucca

"Rephrase" as you will Mr. Anonymous.

Your "spin" on sports lessons to be taught and learned are not "advantages" enabling one younster to gain an "advantage" over another.
The lessons are taught on a "level playing field".....all involved and willing youngsters-[and willing parents]- profit.

"The old man says so"......RIGHT!! And don't ever forget it.

Your "old man" comment smacks of a lesson you have failed to learn-[respect for elders]- thus far in your lifetime.
Hope it doesn't rub off on your offspring.

FWIW--I served and survived the Korean War.
Two of my boyhood friends were KIA.
Was born, married a Somerville girl, and raised our family here in Somerville. We Probably have Grandsons, and Granddaughters older than you.

Reverie is bliss...enjoy your world!!

"Scirocco? Sounds like a dumb last name to me.".....Your comment speaks volumes as to your mind-set. He is a real person, a past president of Somerville Little league.

Frank


Cosmo

Frank don't let this clown spoil your Christmas. Like I wrote in my earlier post - and the majority feel - thank you for your service to our community and God bless you and yours.

New Somervillian

Apparently, you have no real arguments against the rephrasing (other than that you were drafted at some point). That says it all.
Regarding respect for the elders, well, it is not surprising you are pushing so much for it, kind of self-interested. Some elders are worthy of respect, some are not. Some elders have learned nothing from life and have just become bitter reactionaries who hate anybody younger or more successful than they are.
Good luck with Little League, though!

Ron Newman

Christmas seems to be bringing out all of the nuts ....

Cosmo

Ron just ignore this guy - people like this thrive on the attention. They wallow in the misery and love to bring others down into their pit of agony. Love knocking someone down a peg to bring themselves up. Merry Christmas to all.

Imux

Merry Christmas to all!

Sincerely,
Imux

Note: Election = New Somervillian (in case no one figured it out). Same writing style and same level of utter stupidity/moonbatishness.

EIection

Christmas is a tough time for those without loved ones! Merry Christmas!

Frank Bucca

Thanks all for your kind comments and input.
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He is not spoiling my Christmas, Cosmo.

He enhances my appreciation of what Cristmas is all about. He has my sympathy for what he is missing..unfortuneately his children will be impacted. But that's his call...we all have choices...good, bad, or indifferent...for whatever reasons. He has his, and he is welcome to them!
Great country we live in!!

Just don't use my beliefs, and so many others, as a "crutch"...or a rationale for the choices he is making, for himself and his offspring.

His "rephrasing" lends itself to being "in the eyes of the beholder"...requiring no specific rebuttal. [Debate 101!!] Indeed, to rebutt specifically to his spins would be giving his spins more credit than his "rephrasing" deserves... a complete waste of time and typing.
{Ever try talking to a wall?]

As to my being "drafted"--Korean War.
Sorry, he is wrong again. I and my friends enlisted within 25 days of the North Koreans invading South Korea on June 25, 1950. We were in boot camp, together, July 15th, 1950.
At age 18 1/2, some were 19...we were a long way off from being drafted; if at all.

Ahhh!!....The "slings and arrows"...."the good and the bad" of the gentrifcation of Somerville. Welcome all, but......

If he thought Scirocco-[Italian derivative}-was a "dumb last name"...he should of checked the very much ["dumb"] diversified last names of countless local residents before he moved here...via the local telephone book. [IF, repeat, IF, the "dumb last names" became a belated problem for him]

Merry Christmas to all!

Frank

EIection

Merry Christmas even to Imux, even though he is a hating creep who runs over homeless people and keeps spreading false rumors on this site. I bet Imux and New Somerville are making fun of all of us as we speak, in their shared basement.

Imux

Frank, Merry Christmas and thanks for volunteering/serving. My dad was WWII - SHS, one brother served in Vietnam.

Merry Christmas even to Imux, even though he is a hating creep who runs over homeless people and keeps spreading false rumors on this site. I bet Imux and New Somerville are making fun of all of us as we speak, in their shared basement.

Posted by: EIection | December 25, 2007 at 12:27 PM


Election, I will hold my fire as today is a time of peace and goodwill to men -- even to you moonbats.

Bill Shelton

When I started reading this thread, I thought that it was a good case study of some things that I'd written in the "This Train Can Save Your Life" thread. When I read more of New Somervillian's posts, I realized that it is, but in a different way than I imagined.

New Somervillian is what the "cowardly French" call an "agente provacteur." S/he is a made up person with made up sentiments, calculated to be as provocative as possible. Reread what New Somervillian wrote and consider whether anyone could believe all that nonsense much less post it on this website.

It feeds off a caricatured cartoon of new comers and progressives. I've been critical (constructively, I hope) of both, but I've never met one of either who hated little league.

On the positive side, much thanks to all of you who so eloquently expressed the true virtues of little league.

Now even though it is Christmas and not April Fool's Day, I have to ask: Imux, are you New Somervillian?

Bill Shelton

When I started reading this thread, I thought that it was a good case study of some things that I'd written in the "This Train Can Save Your Life" thread. When I read more of New Somervillian's posts, I realized that it is, but in a different way than I imagined.

New Somervillian is what the "cowardly French" call an "agente provacteur." S/he is a made up person with made up sentiments, calculated to be as provocative as possible. Reread what New Somervillian wrote and consider whether anyone could believe all that nonsense much less post it on this website.

It feeds off a caricatured cartoon of new comers and progressives. I've been critical (constructively, I hope) of both, but I've never met one of either who hated little league.

On the positive side, much thanks to all of you who so eloquently expressed the true virtues of little league.

Now even though it is Christmas and not April Fool's Day, I have to ask: Imux, are you New Somervillian?

EIection

I agree with Bill, here. New Somerville comes across as a caricature of the left as much as Imux comes across as a caricature of the right.
But, Bill, to be entirely fair, can we give New Somerville the benefit of the doubt? Perhaps it was "cheek in tongue", as you said of Imux a while back? New Somerville, are you serious about what you wrote?

EIection

Sorry, I got distracted. I meant "tongue in cheek". But the question remains. I'm still convinced that New Somerville is a caricature created by Imux to make fun of the left.

Imux

Bill, I am not that imbecile "New Somervillian". If I saw that guy in a bar I would kick him right in the nuts. I am also not some sort of caricature for the right. What I write is what I believe.

This town is going to hell because we've allowed to many moonbat, libaloon, treasonous, Godless, moral-less freaks in. They now have allowed East Somerville to be illegal-ville and the west to become PDS/freak-ville.

Merry Christmas. Oh... and I love little league. I was an all-star (pitcher, 3rd base) when I played.

Imux.

Note: Election IS New Somervillian.

Cosmo

Frank good for you for taking the high road and for your service to our country. This guy is a rabble rouser but that doesn't make his garbage any less hateful at the holidays. Hell, we were talking about Little League baseball to start!

New Somervillian

Anyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I've articulated mine.
I HOPE none of my kids or grandkids will ever volunteer to go to another country and murder people on the "other team". That is what bowing to authority and believing the nationalistic propaganda does to people. Mr/Ms. Shelton and Mr/Ms. Election, this is not a caricature of anything and it's not tongue-in-cheek anything. It's an opinion, as legitimate as the ones you hold. It is shared by many members of the anti-war movement.
Generally speaking, sports are a good military recruiting or prerecruiting tool: developing the mentality of the tough guy who does not question authority and who is a good "team player". So, it is not surprising at all that war veterans would push for Little League recruitment.
In case you have not realized this in your long life, wars are merely games powerful interests play to further enrich themselves. The patriotic propaganda is there to get the small people to enroll in the game and kill each other feeling good about it for "serving their country".
Peace.

Ron Newman

I'm as against war as you are, 'New Somervillian', but I totally disagree with you about sports. Young people need to engage in physical activity and exercise, not just academics.

Imux

Folks, and there you have it; "New Somervillian", Ron, Election and all members of the looney left have shown their true colors on this fine Christmas day. I hate to say I was right, but by their own words they have all shown that they have been rooting for the terrorists (anti-war), against the troops, against the president (authority), against all that is American (little league) and ... well... basically they are the treasonous, seditous, moral-less, Godless, traitorous moonbats I've been telling everyone they are. The proof is in the pudding.

New Somervillian, henceforth thy name is Benedict Arnold (or call yourself Ron Jr.). May I ask why you hate your own country so? Why do you hate the troops so? Why do you hate little leaguers so? You probably sucked at hitting a baseball and are now bitter. Get over it.

Ron Newman

> The proof is in the pudding.

The figgy pudding, of course.

Election

I agree with Ron on the importance of physical exercise. Whether that necessarily requires teams and all the extra competitive stuff is questionable. I also agree with Ron's anti-war sentiments. Personally I don't respect war veterans more than anyone else. I respect anyone who makes sense and seems to be a decent person. Even Imux is a decent person; while waiting in line at the unemployment office, he was seen consoling some of the other people there. He's just ashamed of admitting being engaged in these types of kind gestures.
New Somervillian, you come across as very abrasive and your arguments are not well fleshed out... Not to say that the other arguments in this thread are well fleshed out either... Concretely, what do you propose instead of sports for kids?

Imux

Ron, plum pudding.

Election, I am even more convinced that you were not dropped on your head as a child, but thrown. Repeatedly. You don't believe in team sports?!! No respect for veterans?!!! What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?

Gawd, these moonbats are going to drive me to drinking (more). I am rapidly losing the Christmas spirit (drank most of it) and the gloves may soon have to come off.

Janice

Frank,

Don't worry about missy new somerville's children. I'm sure he is light in the loafers and we all know they can't have kids, by committing their disgusting acts. We used to call them fairies. I miss the good old days when they were in the closet.

Merry Christmas to you and your entire family.

Janice.

Election

Janice IS Imux, for those of you who have not noticed. Same kind of homophobic remarks. Ain't Christmas in Somerville great?

Imux

Election, I agree with Janice, but I am not her. Do you still have nightmares about all the times that I (virtually) kicked your ass up between your shoulderblades? You seem to think everyone is me. Grog wasn't me either, dumbass.

Though I was just thinking that if New Somervillian isn't you then he/it must be Carl Sciortino. Seems to fit his style (light in the loafers, anti-little league, PDS'er, etc).

Janice

Good one Imux. You made me laugh. Election does fit the model of Carl. Too bad for Carl/Election, the he/she/it will have someone who will defeat it this coming election.

Yours,
Janice

Janice

Good one Imux. You made me laugh. Election does fit the model of Carl. Too bad for Carl/Election, the he/she/it will have someone who will defeat it this coming election.

Yours,
Janice

Election

Nobody will defeat Sciortino, don't worry. He's a smart politician.

Imux

Sciortino? HA HA HA

Bob Trane will kick his ass.

To New Somervillian

How you could ever make the jump from playing Little League to sending these kids off to war is just plain ignorant and stupid! Of course you also had to get your little yuletide dig in there during this Christmas Holiday against priests.

You are nothing but a carpetbag hater/shitstirrer.

Have you ever attended a little league game? Or any sport that kids in Somerville are involved in? No, you were too busy teaching "Todd" and "Moonie" the finer arts of speaking French. Geez, that will really help them deal with real life and will make them a great target for their peers.

Welcome to the real world (Somerville) and not the little fairy tale playing in your head.

To Joe Janiero: You have to sit down with the principles of each school and get them involved so that they will at least distribute the flyers that are made up each year for the kids in each school to know when tryouts are. Most of the principles couldn't be bothered to pass these out and they end up in the trash.

Frank Bucca

On 12/25/07 @ 4:07 PM.....a post by New Somervillian contained the following (last) paragraph:
"In case you have not realized this in your long life-->[no doubt,referring to me]- wars are merely games powerful interests play to further enrich themselves. The patriotic propaganda is there to get the small people to enroll in the game and kill each other feeling good about it for "serving their country."

If the "small people" had not "enrolled in the game" against the "other team" in
World War II...he and his offspring would be saluting the Nazi
swatsika and forced to submit to authoritanian disciplines shoved down all our throats. And forget about his having the luxury of making "choices" for himself and family. It was the "small people" he negatively refers to, who preserved the rights he enjoys today. Yes...requiring "killing persons on the "other team" to preserve our freedoms and democracy. "Our team" players also paying the price to ensure New Somervillian the right to make his choices for himself and family.

BTW---there were no anti-war protestors railing against this NECESSARY WAR.
Made necessary by the actions of the German, Japanese, and yes, Italian militarists.

Absent Americans "serving their country" in necessary wars....New Somervillian, and the rest of us, would be gagged.

"Our team" suffering losses also.
[My Uncle was KIA in the Normandy--[fortress Europe]- invasion. A cousin was KIA, Saipan; in the Pacific Theatre]

He should read the "History of World War II".. and Tom Brokaw's book.."The Greatest Generation".....to understand WHEN GOING TO WAR WAS A NECESSITY; and for "small people" to step up. Once Great Britain was defeated, our couintry would of been next.
Hitler's payback for Germany's defeat in WW I, and his "dream" of world conquest.

Then, post WWII there was Joseph Stalin and his intent to spread Communism thruout the world.

The Communist "Iron Curtain" fell on most of Eastern Europe. Individual freedoms were lost. Then the Russian powers looked to spread Communism to Western Europe;... France, Germany, Italy, etc. China and North Korea succumbed to Communism...more individual freedoms lost.

South Korea became a target. Again, a NECESSARY war to preserve individual freedoms and a democracy.

Again, "small people" had to step up, requiring "killing persons on the other team"..and "our team" suffering losses. [my two boyhood friends,KIA, among thousands of others]

Am I a warmonger? No way!!
I was defintely against going into Irag..BEFORE we went in, and there was "talk" down in D.C. about the possibility of going in.

I called and spoke to my Congressman; Mike Capuano; weeks before we went in.
He, at the time, was on "SCAT" local cable, taking phone calls on the subject.

I gave him all my reasons why we should not go in....[all of them, unfortuneately, came to pass...and continue to rear their ugly heads]....Mike agreed! [He was against going in before I spoke with him]

"PATRIOTIC PROPAGANDA"-----[as expressed by New Somervillian]
Label it/spin it, as one may....Patriotism is still alive and well in the U.S.A. when the cause is just.

**The bombing of Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941.
**German submarines actively sinking American ships prior to an official declaration of war.
**9/11

Yes, I'm all for peace but not at the price of caving-in to any entity wanting to take away our freedoms.
If we have to fight, kill, or die...sobeit!!

Frank


Election

Great post, Frank. I'm glad you agree that the Iraq biz was off base to begin with. History has already proven us right. Just ignore the New Somerville poster. He/she is probably just having fun behind our backs.

Frank Bucca

Thanks, Election.

True,he/she may be having fun behind our backs. But, unless otherwise known, I re-act/reply to what is written.....particularly some of the absurdities he noted such as our government having to fan the flames of patriotism via propaganda. Admittedly all countries engage in propagada...to one degree or another; for one purpose or another.

Joseph Goebbels, Adolph Hitler's Minister of Propaganda; mesmerized the German people into a go-to-war frenzy-under the guise of patriotism with his controlled use of propaganda.

BUT.....
The sneak attack on Pearl Harbor; the sinking of American ships-[naval and passenger]- with loss of American lives, by German subs prior to a declarstion of war;
the Bataan Death March; 9/11... and so many other incidents against Americans and American interests too many to list here...all of which fanned the flames of American Patriotism sans the use of propaganda to induce men willing to join the military to go to war.

Ex. The week following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, recruiting stations in Boston and thruout the country, were pictured in the newspapers showing long lines of men prior to the opening of the doors, and after opening of the doors.
"Small people" stepping up..patriotism abouinding!

No little league those days; but lots of guys (locally) who participated in organized youth sports. Junior High School--High School--some college--local city rec leagues.
[Baseball, football, hockey, basketball...players/coaches; married men, single men; ages running the gamut from 18 years old on up.]
My of age blood family, extended family, and other family friends among them.

Frank

Yorktown Street

Pet peeve here:

The proof is NOT in the pudding. The correct proverb is, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." (In other words, you don't know how good something is until you try it out.)

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