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August 28, 2007

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Walter Pero's Privates

Wow, so glad that the retarded liberals of Somerville decided to make this a "safe haven" for illegals.

The good news is... ICE doesn't care what you declare it. Let's not stop with the MS-13 assholes either. Let's start rounding them all up. Good places to start... schools, clinics, churches, Brazilians Soccer Clubhouses, etc. Anywhere we can start grabbing up illegals and shipping them out, we should.

Then we need to get rid of the liberals who allowed them here in the first place.

Just some wisdom from Walter Pero's Private Parts.

Walter Pero's Privates

Wow, so glad that the retarded liberals of Somerville decided to make this a "safe haven" for illegals.

The good news is... ICE doesn't care what you declare it. Let's not stop with the MS-13 assholes either. Let's start rounding them all up. Good places to start... schools, clinics, churches, Brazilians Soccer Clubhouses, etc. Anywhere we can start grabbing up illegals and shipping them out, we should.

Then we need to get rid of the liberals who allowed them here in the first place.

Just some wisdom from Walter Pero's Private Parts.

Ron Newman

Had you been around in 1850, you might have considered joining this party.

Go Figure

Ron,
i think there is a decided difference between the prior poster and the Know-Nothing party and I'm sure you're aware of it. The 1850's immigrants were legal immigrants, the MS-13 member that the poster reffered to are not. In addition, the arrestee in question is part of a violent international gang that the FBI has isentified as a threat to our national security. So much of a threat, in fact, that MS-13 is the only gang ever to have an FBI unit established to address the problem.

When you suggest that the earlier poster should be a member of the Know Nothing party, you implicitly make the analogy that Irish and German Catholics, legally in the country and in search of work in the 1850's are the same as criminal members of MS-13 in our coutry illegally who then commit further crimes. I find that baseless and insulting. I expect more from you.

Democracy

The ONLY effect the FBI has achieved by creating a fake hype about MS-13 is publicity for MS-13 (obviously resulting in more kids wanting to join it). Nothing else. MS-13 in itself is no different from other gangs that have existed for decades.

Rex

What have you to say to that Ron?

Democracy

Ah, I forgot about the "machete" thing that characterizes M-13. That's terrible. I can understand gangs with machine guns, but machetes are unacceptably deadly and dangerous weapons.

rex

Democrazy- MS 13 is very different then the other gangs that have been around for decades. For starters they are major players in human trafficking, which is why they have an FBI team assigned to them. Not only are they bringing in illegals that are looking to find work and a better life but they are also bringing in more unsavory illegals that intend to do you and me great harm if enabled.

Democracy

Ret- they also boil babies and eat them alive, FOX News said.

Go Figure

Democracy,
When you pull your head out of the sand and take off your rose colored glasses, complete with equestrian blinders, try Googling MS-13. I post the links here but I follow the rules.

See what MSNBC/Newsweek says about MS-13- "The most dangerous gang in America."

Or USAToday- "MS-13 Gang growing extremely dangerous."

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review- "At one meeting in suburban New York, 360 principals, out of the 480 attending, agreed that the greatest threat confronting their schools and communities was the Mara Salvatrucha street gang, better known as "MS13."

The Washington Post- "An MS-13 gang member who orchestrated and participated in the gang rape of two teenage girls..." Sound familiar? This particular one didn't happen in Somerville. No, we had our own eerily familiar incident.

The Post added, "In recent years, the gang, made up primarily of Salvadoran and other Central American immigrants, has been responsible for dozens of homicides and other assaults in suburban Maryland, Northern Virginia, and, to a lesser extent, the District, according to law enforcement officials."

The Dallas News- ""They are getting more disciplined and more organized. And they're getting smarter," said Susan Ritter, chairwoman of the criminal justice department at the University of Texas at Brownsville, who is preparing a scholarly research article on MS-13. In Texas, they often hold meetings or recruitment drives in public under the guise of legitimate activity, such as a soccer game or barbecue. There has been talk of efforts to join forces and operate with one overall leader."

The Washington Times- "The international street gang MS-13 is unifying its violent members across the U.S., including the D.C. area, attempting to strengthen its criminal operation by creating a single organization. "These gang members are some of the most brutal people we have ever encountered," said a DEA intelligence officer on the condition of anonymity. "

ABC News- "MS-13's members mostly are illegal immigrants from Central America, and they are suspected of hundreds of murders and thousands of assaults. "Jose," 28, an MS-13 member who asked not to be identified for fear of being killed, told ABC News he has stabbed people "a lot of times," perhaps 10 to 15. He also has shot at people and tried to kill in the name of MS-13. "

The NY Times- "MS-13, formed by El Salvadoran refugees in Los Angeles in the early 1970s, has quickly grown to become one of the nation’s most diverse, violent and enigmatic street gangs, according to law enforcement officials."

'The Dan', (Dan Rather)-"As correspondent Dan Rather reports, perhaps nothing underscored how far the gang would go to maintain its criminal empire than what happened to Brenda Paz: she was murdered one year after she began cooperating with police."

Even Oprah had a special on MS-13- Lisa Ling Goes Inside One of the
World's Most Dangerous Gangs.

Go to YouTube.com and put in "MS-13" and watch the video if you don't like to read.

All this and I avoided the more conservative oriented news outlets. No, no, no, Democracy, it's not you. The FBI and I sat down and made all this stuff up.


Democracy

I see. And if you had Googled "bioweapon mobile labs" during the run up to the Iraq war you would have found plenty of the same kind of reliable information on these same "news" sites. Your head may not be in the sand, but it's definitely lost somewhere in the matrix. Just because the same old media outlets keep parroting each others based on made up propaganda does not make something true, buddy.

Ron Newman

I'd call the Washington Times (owned by the Moonies) and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (owned by the Scaife family) among the "more conservative oriented news outlets".

Go Figure

That's it. Change the subject. It's everyone else, not you. MS-13 is good for America and good for Somerville. Thanks for bringing it up.

Remember, it's not you.

Go Figure

OK Ron,
What about the other sources?

Let me put it to you point blank Ron and Democracy: Is MS-13 a violent organization or not?

Democracy

Nobody here said gangs are good for anything, so don't make stuff up, buddy. MS-13 is not worse than others. The notion that it is is just made up for whatever propaganda reason of the year. And it simply makes it more appealing to kids to be part of it.

Democracy

The New York Times, for example, lost all credibility during the propaganda campaign for the Iraq war. Eventually they agreed they had made a terrible mistake. BUT, now they are doing exactly the same with Iran! It's a useless outlet made up of a bunch of lazy reporters who cannot think critically and don't bother gathering real information.

Go Figure

I said you're right, Democracy. There's no problem with MS-13. It's not you or Ron, it's the rest of America that are wrong, okay? Move along now. I'm an MS-13 convert thanks to you.

They're just like Irish and German Catholics and in the 1850's, just like Ron implied. thanks for enlightening me guys. I'll tell others.

Thanks again.

Go Figure

Iraq, Iran. MS-13, changing the subject and confusing the issue... they're all good. The New York Times has no credibility. You do.

Buh-bye.

Democracy

Bye Fig, sorry you get confused so easily. Thinking critically is not for everybody, obviously.

Go Figure

Yup... I can't think critically. Just like the New York Times "...a useless outlet made up of a bunch of lazy reporters who cannot think critically and don't bother gathering real information."

An entire, globally respected, organization filled with peopel who can't think critically. And me, of course.

Proving once again that it's everyone else who is wrong, not you. You know so much more than the rest of us.

Democracy

Buh Bye Fig. Don't strain your brain, you need to save it to remember team composition and tournament information in your favorite sport.

blind democracy

Democracy,

I dont' know what part of Somerville you live in, but it can't be East. If you don't believe the many, many news reports about MS-13, ask any kid on the street about them. Talk to kids who have been chased down the street by kids with machates, or kids at SHS bullied by little wannabe gangsters who are initiated by older gangsters who moved to the Boston area from LA and El Salvador for the specific purpose of forming an international gang.

MS-13 is real, and they are being dealt with the same way other international gangs have been in the past. Why should they be allowed to roam free because of your liberal guilt?

I can understand getting defensive against bigots who want to use MS-13 to knock on all minorities. But to defend a violent street gang for the sake of political correctness is just blind liberal garbage. You're the reason why everday people can't identify with the left.

Democracy

Ahahahah! Please quote, the paragraph in defense of MS-13, boy genius.

Go Figure

OKAY. I went behind the dog house and took a good dump. Now I see things differently. You guys have a point. Perhaps, just perhaps, we cannot believe everything we see on TV. I'll have to think about this. Perhaps ask the priest at the free soup place. He may know since he's in direct contact with the guy up there.

Obviously

Obviously not the real Go Figure. I think the point he was getting at was that when multiple sources report the same thing they're usually pretty reliable.

How low can you guys go, though? Using his screen name to discredit him? Amateurs.

AJ

Immigrants, legal or illegal, are not the problem. Criminals, thugs, scum bags, etc. are the problem. Most immigrants are here to work hard and help out their families. Unfortunately, the small number of criminals that make up the illegal and legal immigrant community cast an ugly shadow over the good people that are here busting their butts every day trying to make a living.

Not all Italians are in the mafia.
Not all the Irish are useless drunks.
Not all illegal immigrants are criminals.

Got 'em

Go Figure,
Nic job! I love how these liberals think they're the only ones who can be right. I noticed how Newman keeps up his race-baiting and then runs and hides when people confront him with facts.

In case you haven't noticed, Democracy is none other than that clown Somerville Resident. Stealing names again. Liberals really do suck.

Go Figure

I confess: I am brickbottom. I could not come here as brickbottom anymore because I was too embarrassed.

ram

the ms gan was in Somerville like 3 years againg now all u ganna see is the gang of the H,block or bloody make by haitian people or black peoples the carribiaand the youngs hispanish people too that`s the gang is most gangereus in Somerville now that they have to pay attention if they don`t it ganna grow up more then it ganna be difficut control

ram

Gotcha!!!!! I'm Go Figure in reality. You Democrats are all idiots. We, concervatives, believe in family values and would never have gay sex.

The Patriot

The liberals blame the gangs on CIA blow back and the conservatives blame everything on gay sex. No wonder we're attacked by terroists. They think we're all a bunch of clowns, and they're not far from the truth.

J Carr

Pero, Your'e an idiot. let the political part of it go...If someone is criminal, arrest them...If illegal and arrested, deport them (why should we pay for jail), but...don't confuse being a "criminal" with being an "illegal" immigrant. Yes, being here without proper status is illegal, so is J-Walking and lying on your taxes. Being criminal is about hate for others (like your hate) that leads to violent offensive.

MS-13? They are haters and should be deported. Immigrant workers are like bees to nature. We may fear them or consider them undisireable, but without them nature could not function. Oh, yeah...and their human beings the same as your sad sack immigrant ancestors were when they arrived.

Ron Newman

> If illegal and arrested, deport them

I'd prefer a trial and conviction first, since sometimes people are arrested in error. Otherwise I basically agree.

Gang Violence in MA

A sampling of the past year relating to gang activity in MA:

Lowell wins $820G grant to combat gang violence (Boston, MA): Lowell has received an $820,000 grant from the State Department of Public Safety to combat gang violence and emerging crime problems with innovative community-based programs.
Source: The Lowell Sun Date: August 23, 2007
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Dorchester shooting in broad daylight injures three men (Dorchester, MA): Three young men were shot in broad daylight yesterday in an apparent gang-related assault in Dorchester, police said.
Source: The Boson Globe Date: August 17, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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Police crack down on 'gang-like' activities (Newburyport, MA): A new patrol by city police is targeting local parks in an effort to stem illegal activity by young people in those areas. Police are calling some of the activity "gang-like."
Source: The Daily News Date: July 30, 2007
http://www.newburyportnews.com/...

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New weapons to combat Berkshires gangs, guns (Pittsfield, MA): Two major investigations have been financed with grant dollars earmarked to combat gangs and guns in Berkshire County.
Source: The Berkshire Eagle Date: July 22, 2007
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/...

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Cops eye posse in shootings (Boston, MA): Police are investigating whether a vicious street posse that was supposed to have been wiped out by a multi-agency sweep in May is behind the nonfatal shootings Saturday night that left a 9-year-old girl with a bullet in her spine, the Herald has learned.
Source: Boston Herald Date: July 17, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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RICO covers violent, noneconomic activity (Massachusetts): The federal government could prosecute gang members under RICO for conspiring to kill members of a rival gang, even where the alleged crime lacked an economic component, the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled.
Source: Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly Date: July 16, 2007
http://www.masslaw.com/...

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Brookline police warn of bicycle gang (Brookline, MA): Brookline Police are asking resident to keep an eye out for a roaming band of youths that has robbed at least four people near the Allston border.
Source: Boston Herald Date: July 13, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Sources: Nabbed teen linked to gang (Boston, MA): The teen arrested yesterday after he allegedly admitted hiding the 9 mm gun used in the accidental shooting of his 8-year-old half-brother has been linked to a bloodletting Dorchester gang that was blamed for the murder of a little girl gunned down in a city park five years ago, police sources told the Herald last night.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: June 28, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Police: Leaders of violent street gang indicted (Framingham, MA): Leaders of a vicious downtown Framingham gang that sold a kilogram of cocaine a week have been indicted on federal drug charges, state and federal authorities said yesterday.
Source: MetroWest Daily News Date: June 22, 2007
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/...

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Proposed ordinances target gangs (Fall River, MA): In an effort to curb gang-related crime, the City Council is preparing a series of ordinances.
Source: The Herald News Date: May 27, 2007
http://www.heraldnews.com/...

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Officials say vow kept with arrests (Boston, MA): Authorities said yesterday they are keeping a promise to prosecute 25 members of a violent street gang they hold responsible for 57 shootings and six slayings in Dorchester and Mattapan in two years.
Source: The Boson Globe Date: May 25, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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Latin Kings roundup (New Bedford, MA): Federal, state and local law enforcement officials swept through the city Monday morning and arrested 30 members and associates of the Latin Kings, a street gang the FBI says is responsible for a "disproportionate share" of the drug trafficking and firearm violence in the city.
Source: The Standard-Times Date: May 15, 2007
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/...

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Bill targets summer youth violence (Boston, MA): The governor and legislative leaders agreed yesterday to launch a pre-emptive strike on summer gang and gun violence across the state, fast-tracking $15 million in new funding for more police and for youth intervention, job and recreation funding for cities and towns.
Source: Worcester Telegram & Gazette Date: May 11, 2007
http://www.telegram.com/...

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17 indicted in US, state crackdown on Lynn gang (Lynn, MA): Seventeen members and associates of a gang that allegedly terrorized the city of Lynn with drive-by shootings, home invasions, and witness intimidation were indicted yesterday on federal and state drug trafficking and gun charges that could put some of them behind bars for life, according to law enforcement officials.
Source: The Boson Globe Date: May 03, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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FBI head pledges help in Mass. gang crackdown (Massachusetts): FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III said he pledged the bureau's help in cracking down on gang violence throughout the state during a meeting Friday with Massachusetts State Police Colonel Mark F. Delaney.
Source: The Boson Globe Date: April 27, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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Homicide in Holyoke was gang-related, police believe (Holyoke, MA): Local, state, and federal law enforcement officials are investigating a shootout on a busy Holyoke street that left one man dead and four others injured.
Source: The Boson Globe Date: April 22, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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Latin Kings member shot in fight at gas station (Worcester, MA): A reputed ranking member of the Latin Kings street gang escaped serious injury early yesterday when a bullet grazed his head during a confrontation at the Shell gas station on Southbridge Street.
Source: Worcester Telegram & Gazette Date: April 14, 2007
http://www.telegram.com/...

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Experts urge Lowell's youth to speak up about gang violence (Lowell, MA): A survey of youths at Boys & Girls clubs in seven cities across Massachusetts found that despite strong fears of being labeled a "snitch," many youngsters are willing to tell an adult about crimes they witness.
Source: Lowell Sun Date: April 14, 2007
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Alleged Ruth Street gang leader captured (Boston, MA): Just shy of 18 months after he eluded federal agents seeking to charge him with importing 10 kilograms of cocaine into New Bedford, law enforcement had its first confirmed sighting of Brandin Gonsalves, the alleged leader of the Ruth Street gang.
Source: The Standard Times Date: April 13, 2007
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/...

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High court upholds juror secrecy in gang case (Massachusetts): The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled Thursday that a judge could properly bar the release of jurors' names in a gang-related murder trial out of concern for jurors' safety.
Source: Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press Date: April 10, 2007
http://www.rcfp.org/...

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Anti-gang efforts endorsed (Boston, MA): The police commissioner in Springfield and mayors in Chicopee and Holyoke are joining an effort to persuade legislators to renew anti-gang grants.
Source: The Republican Date: April 09, 2007
http://www.masslive.com/...

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Officials puch for anti-gang funding (Boston, MA): Frustrated by cuts in a popular anti-gang program in Gov. Deval Patrick's proposed budget, local police and social services officials stormed the Statehouse yesterday to seek more help.
Source: Lowell Sun Date: March 30, 2007
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Teenage girl shot in Lowell gang dispute (Lowell, MA): A 16-year-old girl was shot in the leg on a Lowell street on Tuesday, apparently caught in the crossfire of a gang dispute, police said.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: March 14, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Chief: gang-related crimes drop in 'hot spot' neighborhood (Fitchburg, MA): Offenses that often relate to gang activity -- assault, burglary, vandalism, disorderly conduct, narcotics and weapons law violations -- have declined slightly in the area surrounding Elm Street, Police Chief Edward Cronin said Wednesday.
Source: Sentinel & Enterprise Date: March 01, 2007
http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/...

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Gangs blamed for black teen murder rate (Boston, MA): Gang-related murders are among the hardest in the city to solve, said police Commissioner Ed Davis, explaining why Boston Police identify a suspect in only one out of three murder cases when a black teenager is the victim.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: February 01, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Commish moves unit to target gang violence (Boston, MA): Boston police Commissioner Ed Davis plans to restructure the department’s vaunted Youth Violence Strike Force, relocating the 48 cops to the shuttered Municipal Police building in Dorchester as part of a strategy to attack Cape Verdean gang violence, the Herald has learned.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: January 30, 2007
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Bills target gang, bullying (Worcester, MA): The effort to combat violence in schools must be a communitywide mission, state Sen. Edward M. Augustus Jr., D-Worcester, said yesterday.
Source: Worcester Telegram & Gazette Date: January 24, 2007
http://www.telegram.com/...

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21 linked to Dorchester gang charged with drug dealing (Dorchester, MA): A crackdown on Dorchester's Greenwood Street gang by Boston police and federal agents led to charges yesterday against 21 people, including three juveniles, for allegedly selling crack cocaine, law enforcement officials said.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: January 11, 2007
http://www.boston.com/...

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AG: Attack gang violence with innovation, as well as funding (Boston, MA): A rise in gang violence and shootings is shattering the peace in communities nationwide. Promising more funding for anti-gang programs, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said law enforcement and community leaders can serve as the "shot heard around the world" by partnering to halt youth violence.
Source: Lowell Sun Date: December 16, 2006
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Quick work breaks gang robbery (Beverly, MA): Members of a nationally recognized street gang are accused of forcing a 16-year-old Beverly girl to rob a downtown convenience store while she was masked and carrying a loaded sawed off shotgun.
Source: Beverly Citizen Date: December 14, 2006
http://www.townonline.com/...

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Gang leader's slaying endangers truce (Boston, MA): A 20-year-old gang leader from Roxbury was shot to death last night near his home on Holworthy Street, the first breach of a landmark four-month truce between two of the city's most violent gangs that have been linked to a rash of shootings in recent years, police and local ministers said.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: November 29, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Somerville gets to show off results of anti-gang efforts (Somerville, MA): Communities that want more money to expand regional anti-gang violence programs need to show their current initiatives are successful to convince the Legislature, Senate President Robert Travaglini said at a summit on youth violence this morning.
Source: Somerville Journal Date: November 17, 2006
http://www2.townonline.com/...

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Gangbangers' online videos a lure for kids (Boston, MA): One gang in Boston is using a new way to recruit - YouTube. Luckily, the self-proclaimed Bloods gangbangers from "M.O.B. Charlestown Bricks" look too stupid in their highly rated home movie on the popular Web site to actually attract new members.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: November 13, 2006
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Salem police say gang members arrested (Salem, MA): Four reputed members of the Bloods street gang from Chelsea were arrested last night at the commuter rail station, before they could reach -- and possibly disrupt -- the city's Halloween celebration, police said.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: November 01, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Salem police to be on the lookout for gang violence (Salem, MA): Salem police will be monitoring gang members tonight, in addition to ghouls and goblins, during Halloween festivities, after intelligence from police in surrounding towns and cities indicated that rival gangs were planning to use the Witch City's crowds and chaos to fight or confront each other.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: October 31, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Gang culture brews locally (Fitchburg, MA): Some of the city's teenagers are getting more violent and more heavily involved in gangs, according to Pam DeSouza, Department of Youth Services' district manager for Northern Worcester County.
Source: Sentinel & Enterprise Date: October 16, 2006
http://sentinelandenterprise.com/...

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23 charged in gang, drug sweep in JP (Jamaica Plain, MA): A six-month crackdown by Boston Police and the FBI on gang violence and drug dealing at a Jamaica Plain housing project culminated today in charges against 23 people, including a reputed gang member who was shot by police during a confrontation last weekend, according to US Attorney Michael J. Sullivan's office.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: October 11, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Shotgun attack on students, concrete eruption raise tension (Charlestown, MA): A brazen shotgun attack on a group of Charlestown High School students headed to class yesterday morning may be linked to the notorious Bloods street gang, officials said, as they pledged aggressive new security measures.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: September 29, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Cops blame fight on gangs (Newton, MA): Two high school students brought their rival gang hostility to Newton North earlier this month, according to police reports obtained by the TAB.
Source: Newton Tab Date: September 27, 2006
http://www2.townonline.com/...

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Epidemic of gang gunfire stumps BPD (Boston, MA): Hub gangsters are driving the staggering number of shootings on city streets this year - with 70 percent of the victims identified by Boston police as members or associates of street gangs.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: September 24, 2006
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Police: Lowell teen hurt in gang-related shooting (Lowell, MA): A 17-year-old Lowell boy is at a Boston hospital after he was shot in the back when several men jumped out of a car and attacked him in a gang-related incident on Westford Street early yesterday morning.
Source: Lowell Sun Date: September 11, 2006
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Reputed gang members arrested (Massachusetts): For nine months, a witness who infiltrated the Chelsea chapter of the Latin Kings for the FBI secretly recorded conversations with gang members who sold cocaine and guns and talked about killing rival gang members in a fight over turf, an FBI affidavit says.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: September 07, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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18 members of Latin Kings gang indicted (Boston, MA): Eighteen members and associates of the Chelsea chapter of the Latin Kings gang were indicted today on state and federal drug and firearm charges.
Source: WPRI Eyewitness News 12 Date: September 06, 2006
http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/...

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Police: Gang member tossed loaded gun from car window (Lowell, MA): A known Lowell gang-member with several previous convictions for violent crimes was busted with a loaded handgun this weekend by the police unit assigned to target gangs in the wake of recent violence, police said.
Source: Lowell Sun Date: August 22, 2006
http://www.lowellsun.com/...

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Panel discusses anti-gang effort in three cities (Fitchburg, MA): State Rep. Jennifer L. Flanagan, D-Leominster, said that when she talks with kids about an anti-gang effort getting started in the area, they don't believe officials will fix the problem.
Source: Worcester Telegram & Gazette Date: August 18, 2006
http://wt.us.publicus.com/...

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Fight by rival gangs kills man in Lowell (Lowell, MA): Samnang Oth did not plan to stay at the birthday party for long. He promised his family he would be at his friend's Royal Street house for only a couple of hours and then he would return home to Chelsea, his older sister, Sina Oth, said yesterday.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: August 15, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

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Gang mentality: MS-13 grafitti destroys children’s artwork (Boston, MA): Punks from the MS-13 gang may have reached a new low: wrecking a mural created by local schoolchildren affiliated with the city’s Zumix program.
Source: The Boston Herald Date: August 06, 2006
http://news.bostonherald.com/...

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Park shootings spark fears of gangs, calls for jobs (Cambridge, MA): Mayor Kenneth E. Reeves and the Police Department denied the existence of gangs in the city last week, seeking to dispel rumors among some Area IV residents that a recent double shooting in a Cambridge park was evidence of gang activity.
Source: The Boston Globe Date: August 06, 2006
http://www.boston.com/...

MS - 13

From CBS News:


Brenda Paz was just what law enforcement needed: someone who could break open the secret world of one of the most dangerous street gangs in America – the gang called Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13. The 16-year-old informant provided a critical window into a gang that, authorities say, has infiltrated 33 states, with hardcore members organizing drug trafficking, gun running, robberies, and assassinations.

As correspondent Dan Rather reports, perhaps nothing underscored how far the gang would go to maintain its criminal empire than what happened to Brenda Paz: she was murdered one year after she began cooperating with police.


In 2002, Brenda Paz admitted what many wouldn't dare - that she was a member of the inner circle of the brutal gang MS-13. Fearing charges for a murder she had witnessed, Brenda started telling police what she knew.

“They wanna be the top gang, the top Hispanic gang. That's what they want. They want to be the one with the most killings, the most murders,” Brenda told police investigators in an interview that was videotaped.

Two decades ago, refugees from the long, bloody civil war in El Salvador started the gang in Los Angeles. It has spread across the U.S., with an estimated 10,000 members organized in loosely-knit cliques, or cells. And Brenda Paz, who had settled in Virginia, knew this world better than most, as Detective Bob Freeman of the U.S. Park Police soon learned.

Det. Freeman says Brenda had extensive knowledge about MS-13 that law enforcement didn’t have. Simple things, like "what certain hand signs mean.”

Freeman says he was not surprised how much she knew about the gang. “It was her life. It was everything she had,” he explained.

She was just the type of person the gang recruits. Brenda was born in Honduras and raised in a broken home in a poor area of Los Angeles. Most females are initiated into the gang through sex, but at age 13, Brenda endured the traditional male initiation rite of being “jumped in” or beaten by gang members for 13 seconds. Tough and charming, her nickname in the gang was Smiley. She dated a high ranking member and traveled with him across the country, where she’d seen MS-13 mark its territory with violent crimes.

Det. Freeman says Brenda gave police decisive or near-decisive information on at least 60 cases and that most of the information checked out.

She also told authorities she was ready to start a new life and escape the gang’s creed, which is summed up in one of its signature tattoos, a tattoo of three dots. “The three dots are my crazy life. We adopted it for a gang in L.A. that's tres puntos. But we gave it our own signification, the three places MS will lead you – jail, hospital or the cemetery,” Brenda told investigators.

Her words were prophetic. Within the year, she was found murdered on the banks of the Shenandoah River. She had been stabbed repeatedly and her throat had been slit. And the autopsy revealed something else: she was four months pregnant.

What Ron is thinking right about now!

Hey, we don't have a problem with gangs here and it we do it's all Ronald Reagan's fault. Maybe it's all a right wing conspiracy! My head hurts! I think I've fallen off my tricycle once too many times.

I know we don't have a problem (my head still hurts) because in my little libtard world we all sit around Davis square, sipping lattes and singing Kumba-fucking-Ya! We don't bathe and none of the women I hang with shave their armpits (my head is really hurintg now!). They're really starting to stink up the joint too!

Wait, did I just say joint or maybe I was dreaming? My head hurts. A joint....hmmmm.... now there's a temporary solution for my head - which is about to explode with all the dumbass thoughts that go through it.

Where did I leave my tricycle?

MS - 13

Below is part of an article from todeay's Globe. Funny how all the day workers in front of Dunkin Donuts on Broadway disappeared. Why don't they make a sweep there every week?


"In Somerville, immigration agents entered the A Plus Auto Body shop on Medford Street and arrested one man bearing a tattoo associated with MS-13, co-workers said. The manager of the shop, Tony Fragione, said that the man, who told his co-workers his name was Henry Morales, was one of the store's best employees.

"He worked all available hours," Fragione said. "He was a really nice kid. I feel bad for him."

The operation paralyzed parts of East Boston, Chelsea, and Somerville. A day-labor stand in Somerville, typically bustling with painters and dry-wallers, stood nearly empty at 9:30 a.m. Callers flooded a Spanish language talk-radio show with sightings or rumors of green-uniformed customs agents in their neighborhoods"

Democracy

For anybody who actually wants systematic information based on peer-reviewed articles, here are the links to recent reports on the issue.

Gang Wars: The Failure of Enforcement Tactics and the Need for Effective Public Safety Strategies
by by Judith Greene and Kevin Pranis

Executive Summary

Full Report

Transcript from a brief interview with Pranis:

BOB GARFIELD: If you're a politician seeking to demonize illegal immigrants, there's nothing to make you feel righteous quite like MS-13. The Salvadoran gang, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, has grown from its Los Angeles roots in the '70s to infiltrate and terrify a growing number of U.S. communities, where heavily tattooed gang-bangers have engaged in crimes as petty as vandalism and as gruesome as machete dismemberments and murder.

The largest part of the terror, however, has lived in the headlines as the press fixates on the Latin menace. One documentary on the National Geographic Channel called MS-13 "the world's most dangerous gang." But gang population estimates suggest otherwise, and so does the testimony of many law enforcement officials.

Kevin Pranis of the Justice Policy Institute has just coauthored a report titled Gang Wars, and he joins me now. Kevin, welcome to On the Media.

KEVIN PRANIS: Thanks for having me here.

BOB GARFIELD: Before we get started, you're not suggesting that a fast-growing gang with violent tendencies is of no concern, are you?

KEVIN PRANIS: I think that any violent activity that's happening should be of concern, whether it's by gang members or other youth. And so, obviously, when killings are happening, when stabbings are happening, that's a huge concern for the victims and families and communities that are involved.

BOB GARFIELD: But the idea of an MS-13 menace threatening all of us, even those of us, you know, hitherto feeling safe in the suburbs, is a bit overblown. Why?

KEVIN PRANIS: In all of our work, we were unable to find any evidence that MS-13 was significantly different from any other street gang. In Los Angeles, MS-13 is just another gang. We asked whether - they said, yeah, they're a gang. They're a problem for us, just like 18th Street, plenty of other gangs. But they didn't see anything special in MS-13. It's really only out here in the East Coast, the Southeast, the people seem to be so terrified of MS-13.

BOB GARFIELD: You say that MS-13 is more of a brand than an organization. Are young men and boys attracted to it for the same reason they're attracted to, I don't know, Tommy Hilfiger?

KEVIN PRANIS: Absolutely, and I think that law enforcement politicians and the media have really been the most effective at proliferating the MS-13 brand. And it's a combination, in fact, of our immigration policy, the deportation of many people from Los Angeles who are part of MS-13 to El Salvador, that provided real fodder for gang growth, and then the TV coverage of the gang, the sort of hype that surrounds it, that's really made it the most exciting gang to be a part of.

And I think that it's been publicized much too much. I talked to someone who'd gone to El Salvador and met a bunch of MS-13 members who'd basically recruited themselves from media coverage. They had never actually met a made MS-13 member before.

BOB GARFIELD: So what is it about MS-13 that has so captured the imagination of the press?

KEVIN PRANIS: I think it's the fact that the suburbs are no longer lily-white. There's a huge influx of immigrants into communities that had previously been all white or, in the Southeast, white and black, and that's caused a great deal of fear.

So activities that were probably going on among, say, white and black youth for many years in the Southeast are now attracting considerable attention because they're being done by strangers, outsiders who speak a strange language.

And, in fact, Latino and gang have become almost synonymous, although when I was growing up it was Crips and Bloods and you rarely heard about Latino gangs. Now, apparently, all gang members are Latino.

There are other aspects, though, of MS-13 that I think captured the imagination. They have characteristics like the use of machetes, which, while I'd consider a machete a far less lethal weapon than a gun, the coverage has suggested that somehow machetes are an even more savage sort of weapon than any weapon previously conceived and that machete-wielding gangsters should cause more fear than 15-year-olds with machine guns.

BOB GARFIELD: The fear of MS-13 has recently taken on some important political implications as various politicians have come into Newark, New Jersey, to decry the murders of three young students there by perpetrators allegedly including two illegal immigrants, who may or may not have had gang connections, and have not only [LAUGHS] connected them to MS-13 but to Muslim terrorists and God knows who all.

Does MS-13, in fact, stand for the political demonization of Latino immigrants, in general?

KEVIN PRANIS: Absolutely, and that's why the murder of - which was a gruesome murder - of Brenda Paz near Washington, D.C., is so important, because it happened so close to the Capitol. I think that was either MS-13's greatest success or greatest mistake, depending on whether you want the gang to grow.

They got the attention of federal lawmakers. That got the attention of the national media. And so MS-13 has become the poster child for the dangers of immigration, if you listen to the anti-immigrant advocates, or people who need to be separated away from the good immigrants.

And the reality of gangs, as we found out, is there's all sorts of youth that get involved in gangs who have the possibility of going past it, right - that gang membership is not a lifelong thing. It's actually generally quite a transitory thing.

But unfortunately our obsession with MS-13 as the peril from south of the border, coming wielding machetes and with their, you know, incredibly tight-knit political and criminal organization is really unfortunately distorting the debate.

BOB GARFIELD: Kevin, thank you very much.

KEVIN PRANIS: Thank you.

BOB GARFIELD: Kevin Pranis of the Justice Policy Institute is coauthor of the report titled Gang Wars.

Kate

"Funny how all the day workers in front of Dunkin Donuts on Broadway disappeared. "

What is so funny about that - what do you think they'd do, just wait around for ICE?

Gangs are not Good

Democracy/Somerville Resident,
Remember what you said about believing everything you read? Heed your own advice.

As for your comment, "For anybody who actually wants systematic information based on peer-reviewed articles..." That's your liberal jargon for "I'm so much smarter than you."

Where are the peer reviews for this article? You didn't give us any information on that.

MS-13 is a threat to the country and the citizens of this city.

Imux

It's funny how the libaloons now defend criminal gangs like MS13. Gangs that are involved in prostitution, drugs and human trafficking. Yes... we now see more evidence of the left defending those who profit from modern day slavery (illegal immigrants smuggled in inhuman conditions through our borders to receive slave wages).

It's so sad how liberals can become so twisted in their idealogy that they end up assisting the most despicable segments of our society.

Democracy, to quote the knucklehead above: KEVIN PRANIS: I think that any violent activity that's happening should be of concern, whether it's by gang members or other youth. And so, obviously, when killings are happening, when stabbings are happening, that's a huge concern for the victims and families and communities that are involved. Didn't 3 members of MS13 rape a little girl here not too ago? That means that we should have huge concern for the victims and families and communities that are involved. We are a community that is involved now - sadly because of the stupid decision to be a santuary city!

Yorktown Street

Look, nobody is in favor of violent gangs. If you accuse someone of that, you've lost your credibility at the start. And everybody agrees that MS-13 is a violent gang. The question is, are they this huge menace, or are people in the media, the police, and government blowing the reputation of MS-13 up to absurd proportions because it makes a better story and gets more grant funding? I think it's the latter. Check out the following story on the NPR radio show "On the Media":

Gang Scare
As concerns over immigration rise, so too have fears over Latin American gangs. One in particular, MS-13, has received much attention of late, some dubbing them the world’s most dangerous gang. But Kevin Pranis, co-author of a recent report, found that MS-13 is less organized network than global brand.


Democracy

Gangs/Go Figure/brickbottom, you don't need to advertise your own insecurities about your own intelligence. Also, use that round thingy called "mouse" to click on the links with the PDFs (those blue text entries on top called Executive Summary and Full Report). Then the references will magically pop up. I know, technology can be confusing.

Imux/Gangs/Go Figure/brickbottom, do what you want with the information provided. Use it or abuse it. I cannot think of anybody who would care.

Democracy

Bingo, YS. Plus other agendas as well.

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because it makes a better story and gets more grant funding? I think it's the latter
>>

Grog29

It's obvious now to everybody that the Democrats and their radical left flock are PRO-
illegal alien excuse making-illegal alien gangmember coddling-sanctuary city ordained -little disabled girl raping-fake document
peddling ENABLERS...that should be thrown out of office and finally be told to SHUT-UP!

Imux

Libs (Dorkstreet, Som Resgirl, Demo, Ronnie), the degree to which some are concerned about MS13 can be debated. It matters not how big they've become or if they're called a "brand" or a gang - the more important issues/questions are (and please answer YES or NO only):

Is MS13 a violent gang/brand or not?

Does MS13 constitute a growing risk to our neighborhoods or not?

Do they engage in criminal activity - including human trafficking - or not?

Oh.. and NPR is not exactly a fair and balanced media outlet. The main issue is why would you defend this gang/brand at all? It's bad logic to defend a gang/brand (no matter how small) of criminals because people differ on only the degree of the menace they pose to society. They pose to scoiety, the engage in criminal activities and they're a growing menace to society - all bad for us. Wake up and smell the tofu.

Ron Newman

Excuse me, but who is 'defending' MS-13 or violent street gangs in general?

Democracy

Ron, nobody, of course. Typical neocon strawman.

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Excuse me, but who is 'defending' MS-13 or violent street gangs in general?

Democracy

Very powerful beginning for your Ph.D. thesis. Good luck.

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It's obvious now to everybody...

Imux

Ron, you and your asshat liberal friends have been backdoor defending MS13 (they're not a gang - they're a brand like Calvin Klein!!!). Have you even bothered to read what your idiot liberal friends have been posting? I mean I certainly wouldn't blame you if you didn't as it is mostly tripe that they post. But... alas... yes their posts can only be construed as "defending" MS13 and those that bring in illegal immigrants for greed/profit.

Also, those were YES/NO questions. Why didn't you answer them?

Liberals, how does it feel to support modern day slavery? How can you sleep at night?

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