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July 25, 2007

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Wait

Does not Joey still rent also? If not where does he now reside and with whom?

Is Someone Weak?

Now here come the Rats running scared, or at least some of them. What an idea to run a “Slate” ticket for the Alderman-At-Large race. Do some of the incumbents feel threatened by a few of the new candidates? I can think of at least one if not a second that would be. So why not hook onto the tails of the more prominent candidates to save their own A$$es.

When a wounded rodent runs scared they usually fall to the side, just like two of these incumbents may.

Democracy

Is it true that two of the challengers are not stuck with properties they paid too much for and that cannot be sold, given the current real estate crisis? If so, perhaps it indicates they have a brain!

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Is it true the two challengers for the Mayors job aren’t even property owners? Never paid a property tax bill? Now we realize its not a priority for running for any office, never mind Mayor, we just thought it unusual - at least the mayor owns a property?

Ron Newman

An "all-incumbents" slate for Alderman-at-Large seems unlikely to me, given that PDS is endorsing one incumbent (Bill White) and one challenger (Fred Berman).

The Patriot

The PDS has a slate of three: Berman, White and LaFluente, but there only listing two since LaFluente is coming off a mayoral fight four years ago. They always run three, like Albano, Higham and Johnson.
It's a trap. You can vote for any of the others and our three. It divides the incumbents up. So they counter by
running as a slate to outsmart the "progressives trap play." So White ends up on both slates. If the incumbents stick together, they'll shut out the progressives' candidates: Berman and LaFluente. It's not running scared, it's running smart. Just like Connolly beating Martinez, smart moves.

bob

everything seems to go back to the 70's where all the coruption started in the city

Critic

That's quite a raise. In a climate of fiscal austerity, as our Mayor puts it, this seems excessive to me.
http://www.townonline.com/somerville/news/x1213574084

PersonDavis

I have a suggestion for anybody that doesn'ty like to vote a slate. Just pick one candidate who is your absolute favorite, if there is anybody at all that is, and give them a bullet.

Ron Newman

PDS did not endorse Lafuente. He did not receive the required 66% vote at Tuesday night's meeting.

Somerville Politics

We at Somerville Politics feel that an incumbent ticket is likely despite PDS endorsement of Cand. Berman and Ald. White. Relationships on the Board of Aldermen are strong and a request for help from a weaker candidate is likely to pull more weight than an endorsement from PDS. For a prediction on what would happen if the White-Connolly-Sullivan-Desmond ticket forms, check out Somerville Politics.

Ron Newman

Is there some good reason that "we at Somerville Politics" insist on making pronouncements as an anonymous collective?

PDS, the News, the Journal, and the various campaigns all consist of identifiable, known people. Who are you?

Somerville Politics

If it mattered who we were, we would tell you. It doesn't matter, so we will not.

The Somerville Politics Team

Ron Newman

It matters to at least some of the people whom you are trying to recruit to participate in your forum.

Let me suggest a better model to emulate: Watertown's www.h2otown.info. Click on "About/Contact" and it says: "H2otown is run by Lisa Williams, who lives in the East End with her husband and two children." This puts a name and a face behind the site.

Democracy

I agree with Ron. It always matters. Besides, it seems that Somerville Politics is just part of The Somerville News.

Somerville Politics

We hear your concern. If people do not want to participate on the site because they do not know who we are, that is a choice. However, to the extent that our postings will affect elections, it may be in the interest of some candidates to participate. We have received 1,709 visitors to site in 8 days. That is nothing compared to The Somerville News that generates a massive amount of traffic; however, visitors to our site are interested in politics and probably vote.

The Somerville Politics Team

Ron Newman

I don't think 'The Somerville Politics Team' is part of the News, as they are also trying to recruit participants from the Journal's blog and from Davis Square LiveJournal.

But once again, may I suggest BlueMassGroup.com as a model to emulate? Click on "About us" and you find: "Blue Mass Group was founded in 2004 by David Kravitz, Bob Neer and Charley Blandy to provide reality-based commentary on politics and policy in Massachusetts and around the nation."

Democracy

Sorry about being sarcastic, but, yes, we noticed the MASSIVE public participation at Somerville Politics: 10 comments total, or so, last time I checked!

Somerville Politics

Democracy: We noted that the Somerville News receives a massive amount of traffic, not Somerville Politics. We pointed to visitors, not comments.

Ron: Blue Mass Group is a great site. We like it and visit often. Check out the Blue Mass Group Romney research site. With respect to emulating Blue Mass Group, it is just not our style. We would be happy to have you comment on the site. Your smart and have good things to say. If you do not want to, that's your choice.

it *is* funny

I think the reason you are seeing a rise in unique visitors on your Somerville Politics site is you've been spamming your link all over here, Davis Square LJ, and Somerville Journal. Once people realize there's not a lot of content over there, traffic should die down again.

Democracy

From what I could see, Somerville Politics is just a list of candidates taken from some database and some, poorly veiled, insults to some of the candidates (generally women). Like the one about one candidate looking "awkward" (Very Relevant). You SP "Team" have a hidden agenda, and are probably financed by somebody with a political agenda (why would a private citizen want to pay a few hundred bucks to run a site and post ads, otherwise?). Just come forward, say who y ou are aand what you stand for, and people may take you more seriously.
What happened is that they saw numerous posts on the Somerville News about creating a new, serious, discussion site for Somerville people, they got scared and rushed to put put together "Somerville Politics".

Democracy

Oh, and visitors means absolutely nothing, in practice. Just because someone click on a link does not mean they are reading any of the content.

SomersGettheShaft

Buy me a nice home here in the city, and I'll gladly run for office.

The Mole

Is it right for the forefathers to entice us to vote for a “Slate” ballot when in these days and ages we have the right to elect whom we want rather than shove a “Slate” down our throats?

What are these four amigos afraid of? I am going to call the Elections Department to ensure I have my right to vote for whom I want too. There best be a block to check off for each individual candidate regardless of his or her so called “Slate” ballot.

The Mole

Democracy

Mole, I agree. They can stick their "Slate" ballot we know where. :)

Ron Newman

I don't think the slate exists, but even if it does, how could anyone 'force' you to vote for it?

Somerville Politics

If the four incumbent Ald. at Large run as a slate (or a ticket), voters will not be forced to vote for all four, obviously. The benefit of running as a ticket is the pooling of resources. We at Somerville Politics discuss that here.

The Mole does raise a good point however. If the incumbent Ald. at Large run as a ticket, they will be hard to beat. The amount of money they will have for advertising will not be matched by Cand. Berman (the biggest threat to an Ald. at Large seat). Even if each incumbent only raises $10,000, that will give the ticket campaign $40,000 and the manpower of all four campaigns combined. No other campaign will be able to match that manpower, and likely only Cand. LaFuente will be able to match the campaign cash.

What does $40,000 buy you in a campaign?

1. Full Color Postcard Mailed to 20,000 voters $4,859
2. 25,000 Full Color Campaign Stickers $900
3. 5,000 Full Color Bumber Stickers $1,250
4. 2,000 1 Color White T-Shirts $4,200
5. Paid Campaign Manager $10,000

That is just a little over $21,000! With the rest of the funds the ticket could rent space, open up multiple phone lines for phone banking, etc. If the incumbent Ald. at Large do not do this, they are crazy.

Primary

Wow, so much for "Bumber" Stickers? Any money for a dictionary? Also, you forgot money for 1) Sleezy online campaign operations and 2) Actual ideas.

The Patriot

PDS runs a slate, so what's fair for one group is fair for all. Their adherents are annoyed that someone else is using their playbook. Tough luck. Does PDS publish its membership list? Why then should Somervile Politics publish their identity? It's more fun trying to figure out who they are and what their motivation is. Maybe PDS is debating itself, for whatever reason. Who knows, who cares?

Democracy

The Patriot, your analogy is flawed and based on false information. For instance, if you go to http://www.pdsomerville.org/about you will find plenty of real names (among a clear statement of their position):

Chair Katie Wallace
Vice Chair Jen Lawrence
Secretary Erica George
Treasurer Abi Harper
Affirmative Action Coordinator Alex Pirie
Membership Chair Barry Rafkind
Endorsements Chairs Jake Beal Mattison Narramore
Issues Chairs Fred Berman Lawrence Paolella

Nothing like this has been posted so far on the other wannabe site. But you are right, nobody cares about opinions posted on a site funded by an anonymous individual.

Ron Newman

PDS meetings are open to the public and announced well ahead of time. Anyone who wants can also join the PDS mailing list.

Somerville Politics

Primary: Good typo catch. We can't be perfect, especially so late at night.

The Patriot: PDS shouldn't have to publish its membership list just as we shouldn't have to disclose our identity.

Ron: PDS meetings are open to the public. But let's be honest, is a George Bush loving Republican going to get a word in during a PDS meeting? PDS is effectively closed to those who do not share the views of the organization. That, however, is true of many groups. So, it's really not a bad thing.

Ron Newman

At the last PDS meeting, one member admitted that he had voted for Richard Nixon for president.

Somerville Politics

As he should have, Richard Nixon (minus the whole Watergate thing) was a great President. So was President Clinton. Trouble-makers make good Presidents.

who cares

who cares who voted for whom? My vote is private to myself and its no one business. Why is there so much hate both from Republicans for people who voted for Kerry/Edwards as well as from Democrats hating people who voted for Bush/Cheney. Thank god (sorry Ron don't mean to offend you and your group) we live in a country that allows us the right to vote for whoever each of us want. Grow up, hate is evil move on and pray to God (again sorry if i offend you Ron for believing in God) and get a life. By the way my gramma is in correct and yes i misspelled some words and for those that feel the need to correct every minor error please move on and get a grip.

Why won't god heal amputees?

Why won't god heal amputees? Because GOD DOES NOT EXIST. Here is ample proof of that. (instead, god believers only have a lousy book that self-declares itself to be coming from god! Pretty lame).
Read this carefully and you will become an atheist, the only position that makes sense.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

Ron Newman

I see no need to debate atheism vs. religion here.

who cares

Is the previous post from a member of the PDS'ers?, otherwise known as Ron's hate group. Stop the hate and get a grip, go to church and pray for your souls, i will pray for you.

Somerville Politics

"who cares" is over the top. This is why we moderate comments on Somerville Politics.

Speaking of Somerville Politics, we just wrote a post on push questions in polling and why Cand. Lynch should use them.

Truth Squard

Is it true that Candidate for Mayor Rick Scirocco had a restraining order filed against him keeping him out of city hall? Rumor has it he's had more then one restrining orders filed against him for not being to nice to women and beating on them

Democracy

Evidence?

Ron Newman

I was not impressed by Rick Scirocco at the PDS meeting, since he expressed the opinion that a casino in Revere would increase spending by tourists in Somerville. But he does not deserve an accusation such as the comment from 'Truth Squard" above. The accusation is libelous if false.

Somerville Politics

Good point Ron.

Ron - Anything new on the hotel study in Davis Square. It was released, Mayor Curtatone sent out a press release, and that was the end of it. Is Ald. Gewirtz spending time on this issue that you know of?

Ron Newman

I've heard nothing more about it, other than the mayor's presentation at the Davis Square Task Force a few months ago.

somerspeak

I hear that Lynch is far ahead of O'Donovan in the unofficial pols. True? If so, good news news for Ward Five and the city. Berman is running hard but seems to not be gainiing much ground. Bad for the Progressives. How many seats do the opposition need to get before they knock out Curtakoty's majority?

Looks like the keys are Berman and Lynch.

ccollins

What about lafuente? Didn't he run against the mayor?

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