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May 27, 2007

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Skeptic Al

It does look like until somebody is dead no action is taken. Probably because there is less paperwork to dimiss charges then to follow through.

Ron Newman

Why are you asking about the perp's "legal status"? Is there something that leads you to believe that only an illegal immigrant can be a reckless driver?

Grog29

Hey Ron-
I thought you were embarrassingly dragged of the stage with a net on this thread.
Anyway, don't ask questions you already know the answers to. It makes you look silly. Have you read the papers lately? Try reading Police logs. Illegals kill 25 Americans per day. More than in Iraq. News of lawless illegals is everywhere. All over the counrty. Don't feign ignorance. It's part of the news here. You don't want to know...and don't want others to know...because keeping secrets is part of the "progressive's" politically correct, fascistic agenda.

Ron Newman

This is not an answer to my question.

All we really know about this person is that he is a habitual traffic offender and a reckless driver who has caused at least one death and two very serious injuries. For this he deserves serious jail time. But how do you jump from these facts to the assumption that he is an illegal immigrant?

mderidd

Regarding Morales' legal status: Do you have any basis for asking beyond that he has a hispanic-sounding last name? He had a suspended license, so he's not illegal. Keep your racism and isolationism to yourself.

Grog29

Ron-
Stop the double-talk. The question was asked by several posters. "What is his legal status?"
That's not an assumption. Many illegals get their licenses suspended before it is terminated because they got it in the first place with fraudulent documents. Think 9/11.

mderid- We have a basis to ask because there are 15-20 million lawbreaking foreigners in the country that don't belong here. It's been a big issue lately...haven't you heard? They have cotempt for most laws because they get away with the first. Driving unlicensed, with a suspended license, uninsured, attaching plates, are signs of contempt for the law and inability to get licensed and insured. Also, illegal aliens come in ALL races. To assume otherwise is a racist statement on your part. So don't playing the racist card
here; it doesn't wash and makes you look like a dunce. He may have not been here illegally.
But why do you progressives want to keep information from the public???

Solh Zendeh

I have no comment about the incident itself beyond that it's a horrible crime and that criminal should pay for it.

Grog, it's ridiculous that you are shaming Ron for posting his opinions and turn around and push your own political agenda. Posts like yours are how lynch mobs get started - an anonymous voice shouting from the safety of the crowd.

Grog29

Solh-
He was shamed by other people and members of the victim's family for bringing in
his politics of "always blame the cops" mentality.

"Lynch mobs"?
Do you get accused of being a dramaqueen alot? All we asked was
"What is the perp's immigration status?" Why do you "progressives" have such a problem with that question? Either you are living in a bubble or are in complete denial of the problem of illegals.
That question is being asked in thousands of cases throught the country.

What's your agenda?

Kate

"He had a suspended license, so he's not illegal"

Are you serious?? That's the dumbest statement, yet.

Illegals can BUY a license. A few years ago there was a guy(s) selling fake licenses in Somerville for $500.

I, too, am curious as to Morales' legal status; it's a valid question.

The other question is why this bum wasn't doing 'time', for all his other violations. An automobile is as deadly a weapon as a gun, he had already proven himself to be a menace, and he should have done 'time' somewhere along the way.

it *is* funny

I cringed when I read this list of priors. Why the hell did his cases get dismissed so many times? How many times does a judge just have to look at his record to see he's a bad seed and wont stop till he spends some time behind bars. I hope that this excellent detailing of his past helps people learn from this terrible tragedy and I sure hope our elected representatives are paying attention too. A lot of Somerville citizens are really angry about this.

ryan

I still don't understand why his legal status is relevant? Please explain how that has anything to do with anything. It's no different than asking if he was black. In either case, you'll look racist and it doesn't matter anyway.

He deserves to be locked away for good whether he is legal/illegal/white/black/underage/etc.

Solh Zendeh

Grog, I have no real objection to asking if he was legal or not - it's certainly possible that he ran because he was not. I have posted plenty of times about the illegal situation - many times *to you specifically* - so go ahead and re-read those if you need to. Basically I just have a problem with how you seem to be taking this legit question and twisting it into a crusade. I guess the same thing could be said about Ron, but somehow he always manages to be respectful and grammatical, and has the stones to use his real name, things that cannot be said about you.

Neil

Massachusetts elects Liberal politicians and those politicians nominate Liberal judges, who don't believe in punishing criminals. But here in Massachusetts, the Liberals blame the Police. The debate Liberals want to discuss is should we have police chases. The debate should be...Why aren't criminals going to jail for crimes they commit?

How many "10 day suspended sentences" did Morales get? I wonder if any of these judges that gave Morales a 10 day suspended sentence feel any remorse for the slap on the wrist sentences they handed out. Probably not. They probably will blame the Somerville Police for chasing him.

Then to top it off, Liberals intimidate me when I ask legitimate questions by calling me a racist. If the guy had an Irish last name, I would still ask the question.

Right On

Neil,
That was one of thebest points I've ever seen on this site. However, the liberals blame the police because they hate law enforcement and any other authority figures (i.e. the "Question Authority" bumper stickers. Who puts those on their cars?) Liberals, and their more evil, perverted cousins the 'Progressives,' are open-minded only to their own line of thought.

“I have strong misgivings about him showing up for this case,” said Judge Maurice Flynn at the bedside arraignment. “All he was looking at was 10 days [in Concord], and he couldn’t be counted on for that.”

Hey Maurice, your part of the problem not the solution. If he tasted those 10 days in the first place he may never have broken the law.

Solh Zendeh

"If the guy had an Irish last name, I would still ask the question."

Hahahaha, man I actually laughed out loud at that one. Man, you guys are comedy gold.

Thanks for the chuckle.

for the record....

"They probably will blame the Somerville Police for chasing him."

Hey Neil...for the record...and i think it has been stated about 100 times on this site and MANY others...it was NOT local police who chased Morales, it was the STATE police.

If your going to try to act smart, you might wanna get that sh** right man.

Alec

This was deleted earlier. I don't know why, but I'm reposting it.

I was a close friend of Paul's and played in his band with him.
This is the worst thing that has ever happened to his family and me, and I'm sure will be for the rest of our lives. I can't tell you how angry I am at what transpired (I'm told that anger comes after sadness), and I am searching for answers. I would like to say one thing about the police chase.

First, I do not speak for anyone, again ANYONE except myself. Please do not associate anything I say with the Farris Family or any of Paul's other friends.

As I see it, this is a pretty cut and dry case of the Police, while not purposely doing anything wrong, endangering the life of innnocent people. There will ALWAYS be criminals, and there will always be people who run from the police. No policy on pursuits will change that. What we as a society can do is to learn how to deal with the inherant dangers of life the best we can. It is all about risk vs. reward. We want to catch a guy like Mr. Morales (who should rot in jail), but we should NEVER do it at the expense of someone's innocent life. It was Memorial Day weekend, Saturday Night, 1 am. The streets are too narrow for cars to pass eachother under normal circumstances, nevermind at 60 mph (I know, I lived on that road with Paul). Further, according to news reports, the chase went through davis sq. which is (quite literally) crawling with inebriated college students. This is not the place for a high speed pursuit, under any but the most EXTREME circumstances.

These were not extreme circumstances. This guy made an illegal left hand turn. That's it. I know "only criminals run", but for all the cop knew, the guy was only worried about being arrested for having a suspended license, or something equally trivial (oh wait...that's what happened). Thus, this police officer chose to chase this SUV through a crowded residential neighborhood for what amounts to NOTHING, and now my beset friend is Dead. I want that cop to come to my house now, and explain why he thought he was doing the right thing.

We must remember that it is not the job of the police ONLY to catch criminals, but to "serve and protect". This officer did not serve or protect anyone,

Further, we must also remember that there IS a policy that deals with this. It's on the Boston Globe story website. http://www.boston.com/news/local/art icles/2007/05/30/state_police_probing_chase_that_led_to_fatality/

I do not want a change in the policy, because IF THE POLICY WAS FOLLOWED, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. I'm not looking to change anything, but instead to highlight the truth about why this occured. The Police Officer who chased this evil, stupid man broke the rules of engagement in this situation. We do not know all of the facts yet, but there needs to be some serious questions asked about what was going through the head of this officer when he decided to break procedure and chase this criminal.

These are questions that need to be answered. The MA State Troopers need to find out what happened, and answer for this tragedy.

This, however, does not mean that I in any way excuse Javier Morales for what he did. He is the person responsible for this, and ultimately this all comes down to him. However, I do not care about discussing him. He is beneath my thoughts. He is common criminal scum, and there is nothing to be done about it. As I said before, we cannot stop people from running from the cops. What we can do is demand the utmost from our law enforcement officials. They must remember that their duty is to serve and protect us, and not to be the hero, catching criminals at all costs.

Please, I urge everyone to read the MA state trooper pursuit guidlines. We still don't know everything about this, but if it turns out that this officer did not follow the procedure, we must raise the question of his responsibility.

Again, I DO NOT SPEAK FOR ANYONE BESIDES MYSELF. MEDIA OUTLETS, YOU KNOW HOW GOOD WE'VE BEEN TO YOU THOUGH THIS, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ME OUT OF CONTEXT.

rachelfromtheville

Alec...I am terribly sorry for your loss. Speaking as someone who has lost a friend or 2 in her life, I know where you're at right now. My thoughts are with you.

I read your posting earlier...weird that it got deleted somehow......? Is that a common occurance on this site?

summaville

Damm some of u ppl forget all the grief every family involved in this tragedy is feeling!!!! who cares if javier is or isn't illegal!! does being illegal make it worse!!?i actually know some of his family and some of the comments made here are just plain immature and selfish just because he did what he did doesn't mean his family doent's deserve support.... we are all born to die wether it is in our sleep or tragically its part of life.........My prayers are with you all.

Policy Reader

Alec,
I don't want this tradgedy to spur on a pissing match but I have a few points that you should consider.

The article you referenced says that, "The agency released a copy of its pursuit policy, which was last updated in 2001. Under the policy, six reasons are given for when troopers may break off pursuits, including when the chase begins on a limited- access highway and then "proceeds into densely populated areas" and when "the triviality of the offense warrants less aggressive enforcement."

The chase lasted four minutes. Not a great deal of time to ascertain what the offense was other than failing to stop for police. It also says that ther are six reasons for when a trooper "may break off," not "must break off." It seems that the trooper was within guidelines on this issue. Even you leave room for this when you said, "We still don't know everything about this, but if it turns out that this officer did not follow the procedure, we must raise the question of his responsibility.


"[B]ut for all the cop knew, the guy was only worried about being arrested for having a suspended license, or something equally trivial (oh wait...that's what happened)."

A person, and from what we've learned a darn good person, died here. No need to be sarcastic about the circumstances that led to it. For all the cop (or anyone) knew, he had just kidnapped his female passenger and was going to rape and murder her and he was running so he wouldn't be sentenced to life in prison.

It was a horrible thing to happen, but it's the natural consequence of keeping everyone safe.

rachelfromtheville

All due respect to the people on here who have taken the side of the Staties and voiced their opinions intelligently on this thread....

I drive from Everett to Somerville all the time. If i had to take an educated guess, i would say it takes at least 10 minutes with NO traffic(i assume that is the case as 1am) and good luck with lights to get to Somerville from where i understand this chase began. The chase lasted 4 minutes which, in my mind anyway, means the trooper was chasing this guy at a high rate of speed. From the post from the SJ reporter above, I gather they both blew several red lights. I realize that for all the trooper knew he could have been dealing with anything from a scared kid to a serial killer. No matter, public safety is WITHOUT A DOUBT the most important factor when you are persuing a suspect who as far as the trooper absolutely knew, had only broken the law in the way of a simple traffic violation. Unless the tropper had prior knowledge of some other SERIOUS crime, I really dont see how a chase through 3 densely populated cities(everett, medford & somerville) is warrented. I believe that there is always more than one side to every story. I am anxiously awaiting an answer from the troopers as to how/why/what the @#$%& happened here. The long & short of it all is that a good kid has been taken away from his loved ones. they deserve more than anyone else to know JUST WHY.

Sad friend

First let me say my heart bleeds for Pauls' family and the families of his girlfriend and the driver of the cab, my prayers are with them.
I know Javier Morales, he is not the common criminal he has been made out to be, he had no warrant out for him, his history has been grossly exaggerated, he was a hard working gental person getting ready for his baby, he panicked and made a split second decision that he will regret for the rest of his life. There is no question the responsibility lies with him and he will suffer the consequences but he never wanted to hurt anybody, it was an unfortunate chain of events that Jarvier will wish he could take back forever. I know because of the pain and sorrow he has caused nobody cares but people should know.

Kate

Sad friend writes - "he will regret for the rest of his life".

Oh, please, spare us this BS.
He still HAS HIS life, doesn't he?
Didn't you read all the 'priors' listed above? He can't conform to a civilized society, he's proven again and again.

Oh Boy

Sad friend,
I think this is one of those posts that some anonymous A-hole drops into the thread just to spark people up so that's why I'm not going to go too far off the scale on you.

Assuming you really are a sad freind of Morales, there may be a better thread for you to post what a great guy he is. May I suggest an IM between you and the possible one or two other people that think he isn't a common criminal.

Let's assume you're right and that he did not have a warrant for his arrest: Even less of a reason to run from police, huh? So he killed 1 and possibly 2 people for something he probably wasn't even going to get arrested for? You make a comelling case for Javier.

His criminal history has not been exaggerated, it's been documented. It's his record, the things he was CAUGHT doing. I can only imagine what he didn't get caught doing.

Don't be an apologist for someone who doesn't deserve it and don't come in here with the smug attitude that you can convince people to think opposite of what they can clearly see: He's a common criminal who is going to spend a very long time in jail.

Guess How

"- As the out-of-control police cruiser hurtled toward them Wednesday night, Crystal Lagrande grabbed her two youngest children and took cover behind a wall.
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Lagrande's boyfriend snatched up her eldest, a 4-year-old boy named Daviay, trying to reach safety, too, but they couldn't escape.

The patrol car struck them, killing Daviay Lagrande and shattering the boyfriend's legs. Furious residents later massed at the crash scene and threw bottles and rocks at police."

Skeptic Al

... Do we even know for sure the police was high-speed chasing Morales once they hit a "densely populated" area?... How long did they get to the scene of the crash after it happened? Not to defend anyone, but without the exact facts we only have speculations and prejudice one way or the other.

Skeptic Al

I keep saying to people: Bring your digital camera or videocam with you at all times. If you have this function on your cell phone spend some time learning how to use it. Documenting is a good way to defend yourself from authority abuse. One day you may be at the right place at th right time to take some picture or footage that may help free somebody who's innocent. One day somebody else may do that for you.

My opinion

~First of all, my deepest sympathies and condolences to the victims of this tragedy and their families.
~I don't think we'll learn more of the facts on this site, so it's a waste of time going back and forth over the 'what ifs'.
~Didn't one of the reports state that neighbors were on the scene first, and waited about 10 minutes for police to arrive? If so, perhaps the chase WAS broken off, but Morales chose to continue speeding. This is not uncommon.
~Who was Morales' passenger? His pregnant, 20-yr-old girlfriend? If so, it doesn't show much regard for her life, or the life of their child.
~People who run from the police, with their lights turned off, don't do it because of a 'minor traffic violation'. A look at his rap sheet shows that he knew the charges he faced for being stopped would include lack of a valid license, defaults, etc. Many serial killers, pedophiles, etc., have been apprehended as the result of being pulled over for 'minor traffic violations'.
~Why did his girlfriends' father let him repeatedly use his vehicle, despite the fact that he knew he had no license, and had accidents with this vehicle before?
~Why did the girlfriends' father report the car stolen at about the same time the accident occurred? Coincidence, or were they in cell phone contact and saw that as their only way out?
~And finally, why..why..why..do the Massachusetts judges continue to let these guys go? What's wrong with 12 strikes and you're out? Any judge who would dismiss the charges when looking at this guys' record of defaults should not be a judge, and until judges take these actions seriously, we're all in danger every day.

Kate

My opinion --- Excellent points, thank you!!!

thoughts to family

I can so your concern for your friend Morales, but you must see that your comments are not appropriate in this case. Paul is gone , and god only know's if the cab driver,and kate have a true fighting chance, i truely pray that they do. If you want to support your friend that fine, but for a grieving family to hear excuses for Morales, that is very hurtful, you are making excuses for someone who just killed another human being.(A SON, BROTHER, BOYFRIEND,GRANDSON,NEPHEW,COUSIN, AND FRIEND.) this could have been avoided if he'd just followed the law. we can not go on in life living on " WHAT IF's " and maybe Mr Morales is a great guy. but he screwed up. what he say's or feels will not bring Paul back or erase that night . how sory is he enogh to admit "GUILT". A GOOD GUY doesn't run from police with his pregnant girl at his side, he could have killed both her and the baby, a GOOD GUY would choose the safety of his CHILD.

luvforkate

It makes me sad to hear people fighting and using this thread as a political forum. I know everyone has questions and justified anger, but the nastiness is inappropriate. This is a horrible tragedy... I knew kate through elizabeth grady and paul often visited her. Paul was a sweet, polite, and respectful guy. He always beamed when he saw her. All she did was talk about was how much she loved him. Everyone who saw them together could see it. Kate will be devasted when she wakes up...she needs all the positive energy and prayers everyone can send towards her.
Also, despite what was previously written, Nabi is still alive. Our thoughts and prayers should go to him and his family as well.

luvforkate

It makes me sad to hear people fighting and using this thread as a political forum. I know everyone has questions and justified anger, but the nastiness is inappropriate. This is a horrible tragedy... I knew kate through elizabeth grady and paul often visited her. Paul was a sweet, polite, and respectful guy. He always beamed when he saw her. All she did was talk about was how much she loved him. Everyone who saw them together could see it. Kate will be devasted when she wakes up...she needs all the positive energy and prayers everyone can send towards her.
Also, despite what was previously written, Nabi is still alive. Our thoughts and prayers should go to him and his family as well.

Kate

luvforkate - I hear you and I do understand your feelings. It is frustration, anger and sadness that causes me (and I'd guess others) to respond the way I/we have. It could have happened to anyone one of us or our loved ones. I need to express my outrage, and I hope that if it had been my life that was lost, or if I were in the hospital that people would be expressing their outrage at the person who killed me. I'm angry that a young man with his whole life in front of him has been killed; I'm angry that a young girl is fighting for her life and has lost the love of her life; I'm angry that a man who was simply working is fighting for his life. I'm disgusted with a criminal that has, as he demonstrated, no regard for anyone except for himself. I'm angry at a judicial system that has failed us. I'll leave the transmission of positive energy to all of you who were/are family/friends of Paul, Kate and Nabi. For now, I'm just too angry.

luvforkate

Im damn angry too, kate. This criminal has hurt a lot of people. Lets just all have a discussion without name calling. Its just not right. (not that you were).
Like I said, there are a lot of questions need answering. This was so senseless.... why was this man given so many chances by our judicial system? How can two people doing the right thing (taking a cab after a few drinks) and a man working for his family suffer and the person who caused it all walk away unharmed? i cant make sense of it, but i hope this person never gets behind the wheel again....or roams free for that matter!

luvforkate

Im damn angry too, kate. This criminal has hurt a lot of people. Lets just all have a discussion without name calling. Its just not right. (not that you were).
Like I said, there are a lot of questions need answering. This was so senseless.... why was this man given so many chances by our judicial system? How can two people doing the right thing (taking a cab after a few drinks) and a man working for his family suffer and the person who caused it all walk away unharmed? i cant make sense of it, but i hope this person never gets behind the wheel again....or roams free for that matter!

luvforkate

by the way im a dork and cant post things without hitting the button too many times.
sorry guys

Sad friend

I want to appologize for my previouse comments. I didnt mean to sound as if I was making any kind of excuse for Javier, that wasnt my intention. If anyone had to die as a result of his actions it should have been Javier, it was his poor judgment and tragic decision to not stop, and he should have been the one to pay with his life not Paul, nor should Kate and Nabi have had to endure the pain and suffering they have. Even I wish it had turned out that way. I feel so sorry for Paul and Pauls family and friends. I hope Kate and Nabi pull through, my prayers are with them. I think what I was trying to say and I hope this doesnt come accross the wrong way is he wasnt out to hurt anyone on purpose, that doesnt mean that I dont think he is responsible for what he has done, he is and he will suffer the consequences.

fedup

ow sad this all is. Somerville is a place that I grew up in. My memories are of so many working class people just trying to be available to neighbors and to be generous of resources and spirit. We were not some white trash nation. In fact, so many that I knew became doctors, lawyers, teachers, caregivers, etc. It is tragic to me that there is this division seemingly based on class today. Judging people based on where they come from and their legal status was not part of the Somerville that I knew. Somerville is a welcoming city, a caring city and a forgiving city. It bothers me so much when anyone tries to abscond with the Somerville identity - especially when it is those that really don't know the DNA of this city. I'm sorry PDS, we are not th white man's burden - you don't need to save us from ourselves. We are smart, educated and have a love for this city that you cannot hijack. This may be a suprise but, perhaps, we don't need you. Maybe your home towns - NYC. Hastings on Hudson, PHilly etc. need more rehabilitation that we do.

I'm sorry to all who are dear friends and family affected by this horrible tragedy.

Fedup as well

Fedup....what are you talking about? This has NOTHING to do with what we're talking about here. There are some stupid people on this board who are questioning his legal status, and talking about his race, but they are not talking about Somerville. We must not lose sight of the fact that this guy, Javier Morales, did a terrible thing and should be punished...extremely harshly. Your comments have nothing to do with anything.

denise

to all the families, my prayers are with you as I am out of state reading about this tragedy there has not been any updates on the condition of kate n nabi and wondering if they are still hanging on, I hope so, it is sad what society is doing to one another, I don't discount javier's grave mistake putting everyone in danger like he did but the police officer who is supposed to be protecting people had a cup of coffee too many and should be on suspension for his lack of judgement, I mean what is a state police doing chasing down a car on boston side streets, he should be at his job on the highway and at the least get some back up from local police instead of putting alot of people's lives in danger like he did. Police chases are deadly and this should never have happened! never!! shame on the state police! May kate n nabi recover!!

luvforkate

Denise,
Kate is still in the ICU, they are waiting for her brain swelling to subside before operating on her. She has received daily blood transfusions and has a crushed pelvis. Katelyn has a long recovery before her. Nabi is struggling for his life, but is still alive. I question the safety of the high speed chase too, but none of us really know exactly what happened just yet.

Jackie

According to some of these discussions, apparently the cab driver (Walid) is still alive, i'm sorry i must've been misinformed. i've also read some articles saying so. sorry for the misinformation and i pray that he recovers. if anyone has any futher info on him, please let me know as i am being informed on katelyn's condition daily.

denise

It's good to know they are still hanging on!! not that I thrive on the suffering of others but I hope poor Walid n Kate pull through their horrific crisis I am praying for their recovery, miracles do happen and I feel their guarding angels are surrounding them with all their healing might, please put an amythst stone near kate for healing and a green malachite stone helps, gosh I am so sorry i know it's a tender situation. God Be with you all.

denise

the more i think about it the more angrier I get at the police officer who provoked this dangerous chase, the police officer should be the one taking the rap, the young kid was being chased by the cop so therefore the cop did it and should suffer the consequences

Dear Denise

Denise,
You're obviously a fruitloop. When you said you were out of state I didn't know you meant you were on Mars.

I understand... It's the cops fault.

Rape victims ASK for it.

Young murder victims shouldn't have been wearing expensive sneakers.

Fill in you next crazy idea here:___________________________

Born Here

Denise, get some sleep !

luvforkate

Jackie, you are correct, the cab drivers name is Walid Chahine. Ive been calling him the wrong name. Sorry to family/friends if you are reading.

DearDenise 2

Denise, I agree with you, but you aren't making the best logical points in this argument. We need to hold the cops accountable for this, as they should be the ones with the good judgment to know when to chase and when not to. However, that doesnt mean that police chases are ALWAYS bad. But in this situation, sadly it seems as if this officer acted with poor judgment.
And let's not lose sight of the fact that the criminal in this case is Javier. He bears the most responsibility, not the cop. The cop simply needs to answer the questions about why he chose his course of action.


Let's all keep our thoughts on Kate and Walid. This is a sad time for the city of Somerville.

denise

why am i being accused of being a fruit loop when i am just a common caring citizen, if i was in mass now I would be trying to comfort these people, i don't even know them, you can name call all you want, I said what i said and I still feel that cop should be held 80 per cent responsible. You make some private citizens nationally public citizens and it cannot be helped that others feel sensitive to their loss. At least someone in the world cares so stop putting people down for their open hearts.

Mr. White

Denise, please...if you really "cared" you should care that Morales (or more appropriately -- Moralless) who has a long history of ignoring laws decided to shut his headlights off, blast through city streets, go the rong way on a rotary and then proceeded to plow into civilians. Who is to blame again?

I have a funny feeling the most intelligent thing that ever came out of your mouth is your husband's penis.

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