Blog powered by Typepad
Member since 03/2004

« Newstalk for Wednesday March 7th 2007 | Main | Marty Martinez speaks to the News »

March 09, 2007

Comments

Delusion Al

Yeah, well the neighborhood won't change much from what it is now - crack whores and dirty men from the adult place half a block down spilling out, sometimes literally, into the neighborhood...Please, there are more crackheads, meth-heads and heroin addicts within three blocks of this place being built than anywhere this side of New Bedford and I'm not talking about IN the projects either! So yeah, build the nice little shops and empower the area and when the businesses go belly up in a year or two and vacate their 5 year leases, then maybe we can reach out as a community and land a sweet deal with I dunno, Mongos III or Mid-Nite Variety of Winter Hill. Then it can be like the Chelsea mall - except no Tello's to anchor it. My God, where will the little gangster wannabees hang out dealing cocaine and driving around like their Whitey-f'in-Bulger just because they saw The Departed and think they're the next best thing to Howie Winter (who was a nothing wannabee to begin with)? Sure, go ahead and build it right next the highway and the projects and in the middle of THAT neighborhood...that makes a whole lotta sense.

the nose that knows

I agree with you, what do they want to do? KEEP THE NAME OF SOMERVILLE, CORRUP, THE WORST PART OF SOMERVILLE, I LIVE HERE AND GREW UP HERE, IT'S JOEY & STAN KEEPING IT THE BAD NAME WE ALWAYS GOT, FROM THE CORRUP "60" S & 70"S . KEEP IT UP BOYS

ward 5

TO the Nose, I agree with you, we need Joe Lynch. Yes he has not been one of the annointed, that's why we need him. HE IS NOT CORRUPT!

thenoseknows

hey susan, you beat me to it. i was going to say that you never have anything wonderful to say.all kidding aside,i hope the project works out well. it should help the neighborhood.
also, to the nose that knows. get your own moniker you thief.and to ward 5 this project is in ward 4, joe lynch is a great guy i went to school with him, but where's walter is the alderman down at mystic. he's doing a great job huh?

Somerspeak

The only things Lynch would bring to City Hall are intelligence, integrity and the community's best interest. These have not been the qualities Ward five voters have looked for in the past. Why would they want that now?

Born Here

and this development is going IMPROVE that area ? Now the project kids have more places to spray graffiti besides their own multi-million dollar (wasted money) renovated buildings.

Ron Newman

If you don't like the SCC plan, what would you propose instead?

Project Kids

Yea let us know where you guys live as well so we could spray paint your houses. Go to hell you prejudgist yuppies you are not taking over our city. Only think the projects has to offer is drugs and violence. We have nothing here. They should build a Boys and Girls Club here like they had in the early 90's here until they tore it down. They tore down our baseball field, theres no programs for teenagers to get involved in so thats why theres so much problems, get the corrupt cops out of there and get some programs for us kids.

blarneyboy

Hey Project Kids,

No thanks on the spray paint, but I'm curious, where was the boys and girls club and why did they tear it down? Ditto for the baseball field.

Born Here

I think the plan has some good ideas, what about traffic mitigation. That area is a traffic nightmare. Temple street is in dire need of reconstuction. Memorial Dr., Temple and Mystic is backed up at all hours of the day. Adding almost 90 residential units along with commercial is going to be a disaster for traffic. Will Somerville residents have preference for the affordable units ??

Project Kids

The old boys and girls club was right across from the bridge that connects Mystic Ave to the River(Across from the murals on Mystic Ave where the Mystic Learning Center is now at). The Learning Center isn't bad dont get me wrong but it goes towards a younger crowd, like the k-6 grade group of kids. The teenagers have no programs and have nothing better to do with their lives than sit on the corner where trouble finds them. The baseball field was in the development old side cross next to the mountain, Back in the days we used to play tackle football and baseball there and it got everyone together no matter what culture and background they had.

Ron Newman

Why were these torn down, and what is now in these locations?

Help the teens

It's the same across the city. Everything, including the schools, are geared toward the young kids. So much of our resources going to parents with young kids, many of whom don't stay here long-term. It's the teenagers who have no direction, and no productive activity to keep them occupied. The problems with gangs and drugs will not be solved until someone steps up to do something really positive for our teenagers!

Born Here

OK, here is some help for the teens.....GET A JOB !

Never thought of that....

Get a job....good advice. Not so easy to do when you're 13, 14, 15 years old! And in case you haven't noticed the trend, many jobs which used to be filled by teens working part-time are now filled by adults working full or part-time. Look at newspaper delivery, supermarkets, Dunkin' Donuts, etc.

Lisa

I would like to commend SCC for taking the initiative to try and revitalize this part of the City. All I am reading is a bunch of negativity and finger pointing but not offering solutions or ways to get involved to fix the existing problems. It is people like you that create the problems that exist. We don't need to hear what is wrong with our City... I think we all know that, what we need is to come together to bring positive change. Are you stepping up to the plate or do you want to continue to just talk about the existing problems.I look forward to this project and all the resources it will offer our City from housing to economic develpoment. Good work SCC and thank you.

Lisa

I would like to commend SCC for taking the initiative to try and revitalize this part of the City. All I am reading is a bunch of negativity and finger pointing but not offering solutions or ways to get involved to fix the existing problems. It is people like you that create the problems that exist. We don't need to hear what is wrong with our City... I think we all know that, what we need is to come together to bring positive change. Are you stepping up to the plate or do you want to continue to just talk about the existing problems.I look forward to this project and all the resources it will offer our City from housing to economic develpoment. Good work SCC and thank you.

Ron Newman

That's pretty much how I see it too. If you don't like SCC's plan, propose a better one. SCC is a non-profit which anyone in Somerville can join.

Fool on the Hill

Yes, Somerville needs more affordable housing. But seventy years of experience show that when housing projects concentrate large numbers of low-income people in the same development, crime rates go crazy, and residents there are more likely to remain poor than those in developments with mixed incomes.

If the Somerville Community Corporation couldn't learn from history, they should learn from their own experience. The butt-ugly project that they built next to Target has a higher number of police calls per resident than the Mystic Projects do. I admire the renovation that they did on Bow Street, but does anyone know how many dead bodies have been found in the courtyard there over the last ten years?

I recall that in the mid-1990s, the city starved SCC for housing development dollars. Dot and Joe went to the other extreme, throwing money at them for projects that make neighborhoods worse.

Marty Martinez has put his SCC board membership on his campaign materials. I understand that Board members of any organization, including the Board of Aldermen and the Planning Board, may disagree with certain projects but get outvoted. So, I wonder what Marty's position was on building a lot of new affordable housing next door to the projects.

Whose Fool?

Dear Fool on the Hill,

Your response, while overtly classist (ie, poor people = crime = bad)is one reason while SCC's project is good. Perhaps you didn't bother to actually read the article but it clearly states that it will be a MIXED INCOME project, with affordable AND market rate units. Not only that, but "affordable housing" by definition is mixed income... if you bothered to research before you spoke you'd know that a family of four making more than $90,000 can get affordable condo's like the ones SCC builds. So much for bottom of the barrel crappy poor people, huh?

TEMPLE-STEET-BLOODZ

Yuppies better not move into this part of somerville. Won't be good for them, their houses or their vehicles

Truth Fan

Four bodies. But only two were in the courtyard. The other two occasions were in the building itself.

Whoose Fool: Please try to listen to what people are saying a little more, with a little less judgement. If you were a regular reader, you would know that the Fool is a regular advocates for poor folks. If you were a more careful reader, you would understand that the Fool was just stating historical experience. If you were a more thoughtful reader, you would offer a hypothesis or theory to explain the dynamics underlying the historically accurate facts that the Fool states. If you are a perceptive reader, you will realize that Temple-Street-Bloodz' post is a more eloquent answer to you than mine.

The average reader will conclude from you post that you are a progressive and will discount what you say. Not because we disagree with values that progressives hold dear, but because progressives seem to believe that their ideological assumptions are always more authentic than the real life experience of others, and that those others are their moral inferiors. They seem to believe that slogans are more real than facts. They seem to believe that when people are trying to solve real problems faced by their families and their neighbors, calling them "classists" helps clarify the problem.

So as a gesture toward some respect for the truth, could you tell us exactly how many units will be available to people in the different income categories, and what those categories are? Can you tell us how this differs from the Linden/Merrian Street project?

Highlander

and if you read Truth Fan carefully, you can assume he/she didn't attend Somerville HS.

Fool on the Hill

Highlander,

Please tell me that you didn't come to that conclusion because Truth Fan writes eloquently.

Smith

"Yuppies better not move into this part of somerville. Won't be good for them, their houses or their vehicles"

Funny to imagine a big tough gang member posting to a newpaper website. Do you hit the keys with some brass knuckles, or are you sitting there with your cable TV, PS2, and broadband? Who are you to complain about yuppies?

Highlander

Fool, the fact that you figured it out means you didnt go there either !!

Yorktown Street

The Linden Street affordable housing is beautiful. It's got balconies where people can sit outside to catch a breeze and watch their kids playing in the tot lots in the center of each ring of housing. It's painted cheerful colors that send the message, "This is a neighborhood, not a project." When SCC built on Linden Street, the whole neighborhood started to rise.

Project Kids

I would like to know if these new developments would be for renting or owning condos? And are they excepting section 8? And for the person who said the linden street projects are worse than Mystic is crazy. Over 90 percent of the incidents that happen here are not reported for some reason, probably not to scare our friendly neighbors in the 10 hills lol. Oh by the way good looks on takin the movies and good times away from us, we could really look toward the future with that dicision.

Ron Newman

The movie theatre's lease expired, and either the property owner or AMC (who bought Loews) didn't want to renew it. I have no idea what the property owner's plans are for that building. It it not owned by either Federal Realty or IKEA, who are the prime movers in Assembly Square redevelopment.

Oddly, they took down or painted over the word LOEWS in five different places, but left the word THEATRES intact -- as if someone else might want to move in and reopen it. (Not very likely, I don't think.)

The Dude

I was fortunate enough to be able to do a walk through of the church property recently. Does anyone have some info on how the construction is going there? During the walk through it seemed as if they'd just up and left and stopped working. There were a few sign of vandals being in there as well, there were some broken windows and smashed up doors.

it *is* funny

Hi Dude -- you may want to drop Ald. Pero a line. He'll probably know where it stands cuz that's his territory. His email is wpero@comcast.net

JANELLE

HI, MY NAME IS SHAY. IM AT WORK SO I GOTTA WRITE THIS QUICK. IM A RESIDENT OF THE LINDEN DT. PROJECTS. HALF OF YALL DONT EVEN KNOW THA SHIT THAT GOES DOWN HERE. I SEE POLICE THERE ALMOST EVRYNITE. MULTIPLE SHOOTINGS HAVE GONE ON AROUND HERE. IF U READ THE SOMERVILLE JOURNAL UR IGNORANT ASSES WOULD KNOW. MY BOYFRIEND JEROME JUST WENT TO JAIL FOR DRUG DEALING. THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST DRUG PLACES IN SOMERVILLE. ND ANOTHA THING..FOR ALL U PPL THAT CALL THIS THE " WHITE PROJECTS"..UR CRAZY FOR SAYIN THAT. IM BLACK ND I LIVE THERE. THE WHOLE PROECT IS EVENLY MIXED OF WHITES, BLACKS, LATINOS, AND SOME INDIAN. IT JUS SEEMSZ LIKE THERES MORE WHITE PPL BECUS ITS SMALL.

Manna from Heaven

Mother of God, I have no idea what you're talking about girlfriend! And I have no idea what it has to do with... anything, quite frankly.


Take off the Caps Lock and study hard in school.

Ron Newman

Linden Street? Near Union Square and Target? What's that got to do with St. Polycarp's on the other side of town?

HL Menken

Hey Bill Shelton, are you reading this? I remember that before the Somerville Community Corporation built this project, you wrote an editorial predicting all this. At the time, I thought that maybe it was sour grapes because you used to be the CEO. Now, everything that you predicted turned out to be true. Care to comment?

Bill Shelton

No. The reality is more eloquent than I can pretend to be.

The comments to this entry are closed.

Most Recent Photos

  • Danehy_Park_Family_Day
  • Bloco
  • 3517a
  • Web_toon_7_21_10
  • Prospect hill
  • Web_toon_7_14_10
  • 3224a
  • Art1(2)
  • Art5
  • Art10(2)
  • Union_square_flood
  • Flood_pic_(bridge_1)