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August 11, 2008

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The Patriot

Why do you have to make the thrust of your comments so obviously and blatantly political? Your rhetorical
gamesmanship, your poetic diversions and your usual historical revisionisms
fail to hide your true intent to demean, weaken and dislodge the current administration.

drogers

I suspect it's a need to be validated and acknowledged. :)

Seriously, what should the city do, Bill? How about a possible solution aside from the obvious spend more money on the library system?

Somerville n00b

How about spending more money on the library system? On second thought, do we need a library system? I mean, one can get most books on Amazon, used, very cheaply. I buy all my books...

Bill Shelton

Mr. or Ms. Rogers,

It's a legitimate question. I hinted at my answer in the column.

Spending more money on the library isn't a choice if we want to keep it certified. But it isn't a lot of money.

It's not a matter of increasing the budget, and therefore, tax rates, but agreeing on what's most important. It's hard to see how the city spent $3.3 million on locker rooms, ramps, and a retaining wall. The retaining wall story is a column waiting to happen.

With an open, accountable, and participatory government, people could (1) learn the real facts about available choices and (2) express what's most important to them.

There would be conflict around some choices and consensus around others, but the choices would be transparent.

Some people may favor fireworks over books. I'm for the books.

Imux

Bill, you're now officially the village idiot. With this last article of yours you went over the top - in the Olympic spirit; you're the gold medalist of idiocy! What the hell were you trying to say here? That we should increase the library budget just 'cause the guidelines (which are dumb guideline to begin with) say we should? Instead of saying that the city gov't isn't keeping up why not write an article that shows what an outdated guideline it is? Why not - for once - use that lump of rock on top of your shoulders for more than a hat rack?

Not as many people go to the library today to research or for learning as in years past. Bill, why should we increase the library budget? Have you heard of the Internet yet?

Bill, I like you... but you really got to stop being such a liberal gimp. You've embarrassed yourself again with this article, so this makes 3 or 4 in a row.

cczcollins

Imux I guess that you do not use the services of the library. Although the internet does provide a wealth of information it is not all encompassing or correct. The library provides internet access to those who cannot afford a computer. Go there on any day and all the computers are being used. For those who enjoy reading, books on all subjects are available, along with daily papers and magazines. There is guidance resources for those looking to attend college or prepare for a new job. It is the responsibility of government to make available the resources so that people can use those resources to improve their life through knowledge.

Yorktown Street

Somerville n00b, you must not read as many books as I do! If you did, you'd go broke buying them all, even on Amazon (or Powell's, which is better), or at yard sales. What's more, your house would overflow with books to the point that you couldn't find your way to the door. You wouldn't want to see me starving on a pile of science fiction novels, would you?

Seriously, libraries offer books and magazines AND music and cinema on CD AND internet access AND speakers AND movies AND a place to run into people AND a wholesome place for kids to hang out after school. They give you a tremendous bang for your buck. A poster that I once saw said it best: "Libraries will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no libraries."

somebody

I actually went to the Somerville library a few weeks ago for the first time, and I was shocked and saddened by how poor the facilities are. I have NEVER been to a library in such bad shape, and that includes libraries in cities that are much more 'ghetto'.

noob: Some families cannot afford to buy all the books they need, even if they are cheap for most people. Also, sometimes buying a book is overkill, when you only need to use it as a reference for something.

Imux: I don't know what the guidelines are or if they are outdated, but I do know that the library fails to meet common sense guidelines. Go visit the library in Davis Square for example... it's very sad! Some people rely on the library for Internet access, so you can't just say that we don't need libraries anymore because everyone uses the Internet. Also, the Internet is not a valid resource for most research projects.

drogers

Hi Bill, it's Mr. Rogers

I guess the point of my first comment was to encourage you to offer solutions instead of just raising points (and at the same time raising eyebrows)and offering criticisms. Just saying something like City Hall and Major Joe should be more transparent isn't enough.

In the case of the library that could be something like floating ideas for Friends of the Somerville Library fundraisers (a popular one is selling naming rights to certain parts of the library).

That being said, I like the columns and look forward to them. I just think you could do more with all the effort and time you obviously spend on them.

Bill Shelton

Ah Imux, is this a love/hate relationship? And by the way, it's now 5 in a row.

It seems intuitively obvious that the growth in internet use would decrease demand for library services. In fact, demand keeps growing. The number of lending transactions through the Somerville Libraries, for example, went up by 30,000 last year. And an interesting and rigorous national survey (http://interconnectionsreport.org/) found that internet users are MUCH more likely to use libraries than non-users. In Somerville, the only place I know that a person who doesn't own a computer can use the internet is...the library.

Mr. Rogers,

Perhaps we are misunderstanding each other. I'm pretty good at that.

There just aren't many revenue generating choices, creative or not. Friends of the Library are caring and very committed, but their annual book sale raises a tiny fraction of the library's budget. In the past I've chided them for not increasing their book prices. But then I started buying used books online from AbeBooks. Many of the books I buy come from inventory turnover at libraries. They cost $1-to-$3. It saddens me to think what libraries are paid for them.

The thing about the library's budget is that the Commonwealth financial support that it would lose if decertified is greater than the cost of meeting the Library Commissioners' funding guidelines.

I do believe that every government operation should be as entrepreneurial as possible. I just can't come up with any more revenue generating ideas. But I would be sincerely interested in any that you might suggest.

drogers

Hi Bill, my comments have less to do with your library column and more to do with your column writing style.

I like your columns but they could be better and one way of doing that is offering solutions or courses of actions in addition to stating your opinion, concerns or fears.

No biggie though, the world won't collapse if you don't...

Robert

Imux: whether you disagree with the guidelines for library certification and state funding or not, they are what they are. Even if Bill wrote a column saying they were outdated, it would not change the fact that if the Somerville Public Library loses state certification, Somerville residents will lose services they have come to depend on.

As for your comment that many people use the Internet for research, most reliable online sources are still available only from expensive subscription datbases--which are provided by (you guessed it) libraries.

Truth Fan

Welcome back, Patriot. It's been awhile.

Would you please explain what is historically revisionist about this column? Would you please point out anything that is not factual or untrue? Could you explain why you approve of this administration and why this or any administration should not be criticized?

Truth Fan

Patriot?

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