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March 07, 2007

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Ron Newman

the parking ticket is amusing, and of obvious local interest, but it's not relevant to his political future.

jrandomgeek

"Well, yeah, my guy/gal might have had an alleged problem, but look at your guy/gal! What about xxxxx? Quick, look over there! Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain."

Left, Right, Up, Down, how about demanding integrity and the nicest sense of personal honor from our governmental representatives? Or are we getting a government that mirrors our own eroding moral worth?

Born Here

Great, just when we were getting all the "barneys" off the blog, you go run a piece on Obama and all the "moonbats" have invaded this space. Whats next, charging money for your free
paper ?

wtf

How many DUI's do our current president and vice president have between them? And people are clutching their pearls over unpaid parking tickets? Seriously?

*smacks monitor, shouts "Be less crazy!" at it.*

Call me when you discover that Barry shot a guy in the face.

AZ_Squeegee

Steve-o,

I won't waste time posting the link again. Bush has had more than one incident of being "under the influence" in his lifetime, and there are at least two documented times when he did it behind the wheel. One he paid a fine for, and one daddy almost certain smoothed over for Dubya. Reading is fundamental, and it's good for you.....try it sometime!

You were using Obama's parking tickets to slander all democrats (since when did every democrat become a liberal, anyway). That makes you a complete Fox-watching, Hannity-loving, useless tool in my book whose opion is crap and should be countered. But you are getting very boring now.......

Kevin Hayden

Inside sources tell me he also jaywalked twice, was overdue on a library book FOR THREE WHOLE DAYS, refused to eat his spinach, told a former girlfriend the dress made her butt look fat, did a heiny burp without saying "excuse me", and undertipped a waitress by 2%. PLUS his tires had less tread than was legal.

And he's eaten FRENCH fries (gasp!)

I could never vote for someone with so many deliberate mortal sins. He must be Satan's spawn!

Sean Robertson

Are things so boring in Somerville, Massachusetts that a few parking tickets count as news? Did they take a bunch of eight-by-ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against him?

Judy DiGennaro

Living in a college town or a big city inevitably results in parking tickets. There is no place to legally park near University of Illinois, San Diego State, or University of California at San Diego after 6:00 A.M. in the morning and even then, many of those spots are meters. Most of my parking tickets in San Diego were caused by my being in court and the court appearance taking longer than the time on my meter. And yes, I am guilty of not having paid those tickets until they were pretty heavy with fines.
Parking tickets are not for the benefit of the citizens (like speeding laws, dui, etc.) but a source of money for whatever municipality they are in. I, too, have wept at the certainty of being late for a court appearance and parked in an "iffy" spot.
Let s/he who is without late parking tickets cast the first stone. Has anyone checked his library fines?
Judy

Put this to rest

Alright, this is how the issue should be viewed:

Is this worthy of being a news article:
Absolutely- These are facts that exist and by looking at the number of responses to the article, people obviously are attracted to the topic. Although there are more pressing issues, this is what sells. Don't blame Hassett, blame the general public. Hassett is smart for running this article.

Should this article turn you off on Obama:

You would have to be an idiot if this sways your opinion on an individual running for office. With that said, it is not irrelevant. He had outstanding parking tickets for decades. Presidential candidates should have the utmost respect for these sorts of things. I would bet my bottom dollar that he would not have paid these fines if he was not running as the Democratic hopeful. That being said, there are other people out there with unpaid tickets...I have two outstanding tickets for parking on the wrong side of the street. (I hope Mayor Joe is not reading this). I intend on paying them but not at this current moment. I am a student as well, and I have other priorities...like eating and going out with friends. My last dollars are not going to be spent on parking tickets.

Should he be compared to Bush?
That is idiotic. There is no comparison when you are talking about parking tickets and DUI'S. Please do not insult people.

I do not care much for Obama's politics but this has nothing to do with it. If any thing, it shows me that he is human like myself. I dont care for Obama...I have RUDI fever right now!!! Rudi, Rudi, Rudi

wtf

Giuliani only wishes unpaid parking tickets were his biggest character-related liability.

Put this to rest

I am not really big on character...I am bigger on issues. Obviously, I will not vote for you if you have shot someone in the face or drove someone off a bridge and did not report the incident until 10 hours after they have died. Parking tickets and mulitiple divorces are low on my priority list when voting for an individual.

Alisha

If a string of non-moving violations from a previous decade is the best attack on Obama's character the opposition can muster, I'd say his presidential bid is looking pretty good.

Also, grad students don't pay their parking tickets. It's science.

Steve

AZ Squeegee:

For the third time!!! Try getting your facts straight. . .

Never once did I use the word democrat, I said ‘LIBERAL’, there is a big difference! You are the one making the link between ALL democrats and ‘LIBERALS’, not me.

“. . .daddy ALMOST certain. . .”, exactly were is your proof? You do understand that anyone can enter information in Wickapeada, don't you?

I live in Kennebunkport, actually Cape Porpoise we share the same town office. I have lived in the Kennebunkport for fifty years and know the police well and can tell with ‘certainty’ that Dubya was picked up one time for DUI, pleaded guilty, paid his fines, and lost his license.

The Kennebunkport police are professionals and don’t do favors when it comes to DUIs. Dubya was charged with DUI in 1976, George H. Bush was not president until 1989; do you see the problem with the ‘favors’ that you keep spewing?

You should try comprehending what is written and intelligent discussion as opposed to your mindless name calling, and personal insults.

Gene Martinez

It's funny for what passes as "charactor" for some people. Obama has a few parking tickets and is considered "unfit" for office. On the other hand, George W. Bush lies to get us into an unnecessary war, killing hundreds of thousands of Iraq's citizens, displacing over 4 million and we have over three thousand American soldiers dead, with tens of thousands disabled. And these same right wingers would testify as to the good "Christian" charactor of Bush and Cheney. Give me a break!

Steve

Gene Martinez:

". . .George W. Bush lies to get us into an unnecessary war. . ."

Then I guess all these people were also lying, right?


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source


e_five

If we're going to keep people who didn't pay a parking ticket while busting their ass in college from running for president, who is going to be eligible? And you folks that say this is typical of a democrat disappoint me because you don't mention Laura Bush's vehicular homocide... or George W.'s DUI... or Dick Cheney's TWO DUIs.

Ward 3 Voter

My question is how did they find out it was senator obama plus i bet he got a special treatment hmmm. if it was one of us, that didn't pay you know the city treasure would be on our ASS etc....

Ward 3 Voter

John Abramowitz

Integrity IS important, for candidates on both the Left and the Right, but there are things that are legitimate examples of failure to take social responsibility, and things that, while not the greatest, aren't really indicative of a person's fundamental lack of character.

As has been said above, I know of very few people who HAVEN'T gotten parking citations from their Universities and almost as few who haven't avoided paying at least some of them. It's almost factored in to the (already outrageous) cost of going to college. Come on, people: he's not sending sexually harrassing messages to young boys (a la Mark Foley), there are no allegations of inappropriate touching of female co-workers against him (a la Bill Richardson), he's not accused of any sort of felony or corruption (with the exception of the recent inquiries into his stock purchases, which in my opinion he answered admirably).

If there are legitimate reasons to question Obama's integrity, then there are. In that case, it would be good and right for people to re-consider their opinion of him. But this is what a teacher of mine once called a "non-issue". Seriously. If parking tickets are going to define our political debate, then I'm sad for what we've become as a democracy.

Also, as an afternote, I think a DUI IS more serious and relevant to the content of one's character than unpaid parking tickets. Why? Because when you drive while drunk, you run the risk of killing someone. I have heard of no deaths from unpaid parking tickets.

escarrega

As an employee of Blockbuster Video, I feel it my solemn duty to reveal that Mr. Obama owes a penalty fine of $37 including a $3 restocking fee for his failure to return an April 2003 VHS copy of Ms. Congeneality 2: Armed and Fabulous. Furthermore, upon looking at his account history, it comes to my attention that he has, on no less than seven occasions, failed to our adhere to our "please be kind, please rewind" policy.

Margaret

Anywhere in Somerville is less than a mile from Harvard. So I'm at a loss to know why he was driving at all. I lived for 20 years in a burb just north of Somerville and I never drove into town if I could avoid it--molasses traffic and no parking? Forget it. Riding my bike was quicker. That would be doubly true for anyone already IN Somerville.

I'm also a little puzzled at how he managed to re-register his car, since as far as I'm aware if you get a ticket you can't renew your plates til you pay up.

(All you partisans, both for and against, should really step back and do some reality testing. Partisan politics is how the Business Party keeps us all jumping through their hoops while they pick our pockets. Even Helen Keller, blind and deaf almost from infancy, knew that politics in the US is nothing but ruling-class panem et circenses)

luagha

Nowadays they don't let you renew your license if you have that kind of outstanding debt - they hound you for it and all the states and such have reciprocal agreements. What confuses me is how he got away with it for so long?

Congrats to TSN

Hey, I see Howie Carr sited the Someville News in his column as the source of the Obamagate unpaid ticket scandal. Who says this thing doesn't get read? It gets read by a lot more people than you think.

JD

"RULES". Thats what it boils down to folks, just plain and simple "RULES". If one cannot respect and follow the "RULES", not matter how simple, then what happens when things start getting a bit more serious. This thing has nothing to do with who said it or which political side your on, it has to do with responsibility and doing the right thing. Pretty simple isn't it.
Have a great day. JD

Where's SOD?

Boy, the recent news from the SO'D camp sure slipped off of the radar screen. Did anyone get a look at the check Obama paid his fines with......just whose account was it drawn from?

Sammy Finkelman

It is interesting no one is commenting on how much old news - acknowledged or not deniable - that Hillary Clinton could be connected to

1) The Rose law billing records subpoena. Records eventaully were found, then shipped to Arkansas, mixed with stuff from Vincent Foster's office - where there was probably NOTHING about Whitewater, but other kinds of secrets -
and then made public, and the public led to beleieve that IF she took things out his office the night Foster died, it concerned Whitewater and tax returns. By the way she or someone contrived to make it look like bernard Nussbaum had concealed records when the records weerer really removed to hide them from Bernard Nussbaum.

2) The firing of Billy Dale from the Travel Office and a prosecution to make it look like there was some misconduct reason for that.

3) $100,000 in profits from commodities at the end of 1979 - when if somebody had REALLY been speculating, they would have invested in silver and gold futures, not cattle futures. Clearly a way to funnel money to the Clintion family

4) Any number of possible conflucts while working as an attrney in the Rose Law Firm. In fact probably even the fact she made partner.

5) Negotiations or hints about pardons in the year 2000.

6) Various politically motivated lies.

This is just some of what is KNOWN where she has some kind of personal connection.

Delusion Al

Wait a second, did I just see what I thought I saw on Inside Edition??? They had the Obama-lama-ding-dong story, but instead of GPH or JN, they had on some smirking asshole from the Globe??? What is up with that??? I hope someone calls the Globe and that show out for ignoring the News like that...at least give the local guys who did the work the credit.

HARVARD OXYMORON

17 parking tickets that went unpaid for over 15 years and until Barak Obama announced he was running for president means that he defines honesty as the fear of getting caught. Scofflaw citizens are not the ideal candidates for president. The claim that Obama did not know that his "quasi-blind trust" had invested 100 grand in his donors spec. companies is a joke. This former President of the Harvard Law Review knows there ain't no such trust. It is an oxymoron like calling someone quasi-pregnant. Again he sold because the companies were dogs and the fear of getting caught. Using coke and hiding a smoking habit may not be enough to disqualify him for the office, but it isn't exactly something to be proud of.
Harvard may have a parking problem..but waiting 15 years to pay $400 bucks when you have been a state legislator, and received 1.9 million for your book and still haven't paid means he was afraid he would be caught. He wouldn't have remembered this tickets if they hadn't kept sending him notices. Some judges put these people in jail to teach them a lesson.

Jason Florida

this is stupid and has nothing to do with anything--welcome to the national inquirer

Carlos

And what about J. Hatfield in Fortunate Son revealing that Karl Rove told him all about how Bush was arrested in possession of Cocaine and how his father had the file erased.
I'm not sure Obama has enough secret offenses to get elected.

jon

You mean like how Bush drank and coked his way through school. Tell me, how does a guy with a C average in college get into Harvard's Business school???

At least Barack knows English.

It's a sad day when the President's dog is smarter than the President.

I blame Hassett

Hassett is obviously a plant by right wing radicals trying to discredit the obama movement. Nice try Hassett! Ya bum!

DKing

Sam,

You obviously know nothing of American History. The "average" southern family DIDN'T own slaves. The landed gentry did, but they were far outside of the ability of an average farmer to own.

Rebecca Johnson

At least he didn't speed or drive with no insurance or anything like that.. can always be worse!

Rebecca Johnson
www.trafficticketsolutions.ca

Got A Great Laugh

This was very entertaining! Seriously, thanks to everyone who contributed, even the dummy who started it. But hey, I guess news is news. Whatever it may be! I'm actually ready to pay all my tickets now, hmmm. Probably not, I'll wait until I have to. Oh, and someone had the nerve to bring up Rudy, I lived under his rule for way to long in New York! You really do not want Rudy!

Got a great laugh though....

james

honestly, if you have an educated arguement and use a simple word like there wrong you lose credibility.

There is a place

Their is a possesive

They're is a contraction that should not be used in writing.

Steve Nickse

OH MY ....OBAMA WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE. CLEARLY HE IS THE SAME KINDA CROOK AS ME AND I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR ME FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I SUCK AND SO DOES HE ...ALLEDGEDLY.

Steve Nickse

Ok I just read more of you peoples comments and you make me sick. It is not a crime to get a parking ticket. It is a crime against every one else to wait till you are running for President to pay them.. 17 years later. The guy does not play by the rules , do you want him making the rules that govern your life , clearly he believes that rules do not apply to him.. just like george bush. I am pukin'. Did he apologize for his infractions? No , he sent his spokesperson to say it doesn't matter.Please do not defend this kind of thing, it makes you look bad. And why don't you dare post your real names - cowards.Steve Nickse

RIGSO

Oh i love these 'common folks' as they label themselves complaining about liberals, OBViOUSLY they don't understand politics at all, because if you really were common folks, you'd support dems/liberals, they're the ones looking out for the 'common folks'. Republicans only look out for coorporations and the wealthy.

It's like the people who complain about yuppies and liberals, do you know that what's going on in Somerville can be helped by govt regulation of things like rent, THAT'S A LIBERAL POSITION, and what IS happening, an untouched free market solution, concentrated on business and money, not the people, IS A CONSERVATIVE POSTITION. so next time you're going to be ignorant and complain about 'liberals' please educate yourself and make sure you don't actually agree with them, and are only using this language because you're stuck in the past. The working class people of Somerville should be behind liberal politicians as the only way to solve the gentrification problem, a republican would love to sell out even more...

RIGSO

OH, and I'm a lifelong resident too, not a "yuppie liberal" eom.

Jim Bones

This city is horrible, While visiting a friend I got a Parking ticket at 11:45 Pm on a Saturday. Free parking on Sunday........

cabbie

Yeah, those of us who pay property taxes and over the top water bills here in Somerville have a lot of sympathy for you Jimmy. Boo Hoo Hoo - you got tagged. You knew the rules. You took your chances. Your lame New Jersey ass (just guessing) getting a parking ticket that you deserved hardly makes our fair city horrible.

ChrisC30

Now, I'm not sure about everyone else, but this leaves me wondering afew things.

1) Did Obama not have his own parking place? If so, why not use it and avoid the tickets? Why pay money you don't have to pay?

2) What was he doing during that time? If it happened over a relatively short time period, like it did, could something more underlying have been going on?

3) Why send a campaign staffer to do this? The only reason I could imagine for paying the tickets now, would be to make himself look like an honorable man, but sending someone else to do it, makes him look like something completely different.

4) Britney Spears is all over the news for trivial stuff nobody cares about. Where was this story? Something's a tad pointed here.

Ron Newman

Lots of Somerville apartment buildings don't have their own parking places. If you live in one of them, you're going to park on the street, and you're going to get tickets. I certainly got my share of them when I lived in Ward 2 with a car. Only difference is I paid mine on time.

To ChrisC

"Britney Spears is all over the news for trivial stuff nobody cares about. Where was this story? Something's a tad pointed here."

If you paid attention you would have realized that this made national news.

This is a non-issue that is a joke.

And I am a Hillary supporter!

it *is* funny

Hi Chris -- The only thing odd about these posts is that you're opening an old discussion here about a non-issue. What's YOUR motivation?

Ron Newman

Yeah, seems like anyone who would ask "Did Obama not have his own parking place" not only doesn't live in Somerville (or Cambridge), but never has lived here.

Obama's

"Trinity United Church of Christ"

About Us

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

Is Obama committed to Africa or the United States?

Ron Newman

Another non-local chimes in. You won't get very far in New England by attacking a United Church of Christ (aka Congregational church).

Ron

Non-local. If you call 50 years living in Somerville a non-local then...... what is a local?

I didn't attack the church. Their "credo" just sums up what Obama believes in. Pretty clear cut to me.

Ron Newman

My apologies then. I was under the impression that the recent spate of anti-Obama comments came from people not familiar with Somerville (as evidenced by the comment regarding why Obama didn't have his own private parking place).

There's a UCC a few blocks from me, on College Avenue. Nothing the least bit scary about it.

(And I'm not an Obama supporter -- I'm still very much an undecided voter.)

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